May 1, 2020
The Random Show: Boozy Quarantine Edition! | Kevin Rose on The Tim Ferriss Show
Check Out The Tim Ferriss Show Episode Page & Show Notes
Key Takeaways
- Think like an investor; consider how you invest your time and capital
- “You’re an investor and you’re looking for a result or return on investment from allocating those different resources. You can really think like an investor even if you don’t have much disposable income.” – Tim Ferriss
- “I was reading books on investing when I had not a penny to my name”
- For updates on the coronavirus, Kevin recommends Peter Attia’s podcast (read our notes here)
- If people keep going outside, it will take longer for the US to recover from COVID-19
- “The less strict we are in the next month or two, the longer this is going to last” – Tim Ferriss
- “The more seriously you take it now, the less seriously you can take it 12 months from now”
- “The less strict we are in the next month or two, the longer this is going to last” – Tim Ferriss
- “We’ll get through this even if this is as Bill Gates would perhaps propose, the once in a century pandemic. The human species…has existed for a very long time and we have made it through many pandemics, many epidemics, over time and we will make it through this one.” – Tim Ferriss
Intro
- This is another episode of The Random Show, between Tim Ferriss (@tferriss) and Kevin Rose (@kevirose)
- Check out the Podcast Notes from the previous episode of The Random Show, which aired in October 2019
Books Mentioned
- Already Free: Buddhism Meets Psychotherapy on the Path of Liberation by Bruce Tift
- The Surrender Experiment: My Journey into Life’s Perfection by Michael A. Singer
- Remote: Office Not Required by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson
- The Bogleheads’ Guide to Investing by Taylor Larimore, Mel Lindauer
- The Little Book That Still Beats the Market by Joel Greenblatt and Andrew Tobias
- You Can Be a Stock Market Genius: Uncover the Secret Hiding Places of Stock Market Profits by Joel Greenblatt
- Exhalation: Stories by Ted Chiang
- Dune by Frank Herbert
- Shogun: The Epic Novel of Japan by James Clavell
- Little, Big by John Crowley
- Cat’s Cradle: A Novel by Kurt Vonnegut
- The Baron in the Trees by Italo Calvino
- Zorba the Greek by Nikos Kazantzakis
- How to Stop Worrying and Start Living: Time-Tested Methods for Conquering Worry by Dale Carnegie
- Why We Sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams by Matthew Walker
- The Lessons of History by Will Durant and Ariel Durant
Thoughts on COVID-19
- Tim has lost 15 pounds in the last 4 weeks because he often forgets to eat when he’s stressed out
- Kevin says Tim was the first person to tell him to prep for COVID-19 and quarantine
- 20-25% of people who have the coronavirus are asymptomatic
- What’s it like being in lockdown with your significant other?
- “There’s certainly more pressure in the container, so whatever cracks you may have and everybody has their cracks, they’re going to be a lot more obvious” – Tim Ferriss
- Tim’s friend compared it to a magnifying glass that shows you your psychological Achilles heel
- “There’s certainly more pressure in the container, so whatever cracks you may have and everybody has their cracks, they’re going to be a lot more obvious” – Tim Ferriss
- For updates on the coronavirus, Kevin recommends Peter Attia’s podcast (read our notes here)
- Tim is pessimistic we’ll have a vaccine in 12-18 months but is optimistic about therapeutics
- Kevin’s 3 hypothetical plan to fight COVID-19
- 1) Test everyone: “We have to be insanely aggressive about testing” – Kevin Rose
- 2) We need antibody test people who’ve recovered and start letting those people go back to work
- 3) We need contact tracing and telling people who’ve been infected to go into lockdown
- If people keep going outside, it will take longer for the US to recover from COVID-19
- “The less strict we are in the next month or two, the longer this is going to last” – Tim Ferriss
- Many countries are implementing fines for people who leaves their homes
- If you’re going grocery shopping, wear a mask and gloves
- “The more seriously you take it now, the less seriously you can take it 12 months from now”
- If you’re going grocery shopping, wear a mask and gloves
- Many countries are implementing fines for people who leaves their homes
- “The less strict we are in the next month or two, the longer this is going to last” – Tim Ferriss
Quarantine Tips
- Exercise to maintain sanity during the lockdown
- Kevin and Tim both love their Peloton
- If you feeling stressed , talk to a friend or family member
- “Just getting that off your chest…it does bring you down a couple notches and we just have to remember to do that every few days” – Kevin Rose
- Tim highly recommends for people to read How to Stop Worrying and Start Living: Time-Tested Methods for Conquering Worry by Dale Carnegie
- “Just getting that off your chest…it does bring you down a couple notches and we just have to remember to do that every few days” – Kevin Rose
- Tim recommends having a different schedule for weekdays and weekends which makes every day feel less like groundhog day
- Ex: He and his girlfriend only watch a certain show on the weekend and not the weekdays
- “We’ll get through this even if this is as Bill Gates would perhaps propose, the once in a century pandemic. The human species…has existed for a very long time and we have made it through many pandemics, many epidemics, over time and we will make it through this one.” – Tim Ferriss
- The book, The Lessons of History by Will Durant and Ariel Durant, will show you how similar pandemics have happened throughout history
Kevin & Tim Talk Books
- Tim recommends reading Already Free: Buddhism Meets Psychotherapy on the Path of Liberation by Bruce Tift
- “I’ve highlighted so much of this book it’s hard to believe” – Tim Ferriss
- Tim says it’s similar to The Surrender Experiment: My Journey into Life’s Perfection by Michael A. Singer
- “I’ve highlighted so much of this book it’s hard to believe” – Tim Ferriss
- If you’re interested in remote work, Kevin highly recommends reading Remote: Office Not Required by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson
- Tim and Kevin both loved the book Exhalation: Stories by Ted Chiang
- “Exhalation is outrageously good” – Tim Ferriss
- “I think everyone should read Dune by Frank Herbert” – Tim Ferriss
- Tim says it’s one of the best leadership books he’s read even though it’s a fiction book
- Tim says Shogun: The Epic Novel of Japan by James Clavell, is also an incredible book
- Tim is currently reading Little, Big by John Crowley
- It’s a hard book to read but it’s worth the effort
- If you’re looking for an easy read, Tim recommends Cat’s Cradle: A Novel by Kurt Vonnegut
- It’s a hard book to read but it’s worth the effort
- Also check out The Baron in the Trees by Italo Calvino, ‘That was an incredible book” – Tim Ferriss
- Tim says Zorba the Greek by Nikos Kazantzakis, is a fantastic book to read right now
- Tim and Kevin both loved the book Why We Sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams by Matthew Walker
Everyone Should Think Like An Investor
- Think like an investor; consider how you invest your time and capital
- “You’re an investor and you’re looking for a result or return on investment from allocating those different resources. You can really think like an investor even if you don’t have much disposable income.” – Tim Ferriss
- “I was reading books on investing when I had not a penny to my name”
- You want to think like an investor before you start moving money around, not after
- “I was reading books on investing when I had not a penny to my name”
- “You’re an investor and you’re looking for a result or return on investment from allocating those different resources. You can really think like an investor even if you don’t have much disposable income.” – Tim Ferriss
- “Now’s a great time to invest in yourself” – Kevin Rose
- Take online classes or learn how to code. There are many YouTube classes available
- Kevin says The Bogleheads’ Guide to Investing by Taylor Larimore and Mel Lindauer, is a fantastic book that will introduce you to the concept of index investing
- Two great investment books that Tim recommends are The Little Book That Still Beats the Market by Joel Greenblatt and Andrew Tobias along with You Can Be a Stock Market Genius: Uncover the Secret Hiding Places of Stock Market Profits by Joel Greenblatt
Tim & Kevin Talk Movies
- Kevin highly recommends watching the Mr. Rogers movie with Tom Hanks
- Kevin is loving the Netflix show, Tiger King
- Tim calls the documentary Senna “fucking fantastic”
- Tim and his girlfriend are watching The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
