#582: Mark Zuckerberg — Founder and CEO of Meta | The Tim Ferriss Show

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Key Takeaways

  • “There’s a physical world and a digital world. The real world is actually both.” – Mark Zuckerberg
    • Learn how to live in the future, the world is moving towards being distributed first
    • Mark finds it odd that VR/AR-related science fiction assumes the world is in a dystopian state, both worlds can positively coexist and even mutually benefit from each other
  • If you’re misunderstood, you’re probably on the right track
    • “If I’m doing something that feels well understood for too long, then I feel like I’m being complacent…At this point, if people fully understand what we are as a company, we’re not pushing it hard enough.” – Mark Zuckerberg
    • Have the conviction to push back on the world – “Let’s constantly be doing something that can be doubted” – Mark Zuckerberg
  • The Metaverse could be an efficient way to test out social, economical, and political innovations
    • Explore different variables that are appealing to people before committing finite resources in the physical world to an idea or policy
  • “Values are only useful if you can legitimately disagree with them” – Mark Zuckerberg
    • Values like ‘be honest’ are so obvious that they aren’t very useful

Intro

  • Mark Zuckerberg (@Meta, @zuck) is the co-founder of Facebook and its parent company Meta Platforms. Tim wanted an interview against the status quo with Mark, exploring questions and topics outside the basic media coverage. They discuss the distributed future of reality, why being misunderstood is good, and some insights into his personal life.
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  • Host: Tim Ferriss (@tferriss)

Mark Zuckerberg’s Personal Life

  • Originally, Mark wanted to be a Classics major before heading down the computer science route
    • “Philosophically, it’s the underpinning of Western thought…I’ve always been interested in people who shape the way we live.” – Mark Zuckerberg
    • Augustus: ushered in the idea of perpetual peace and productivity rather than perpetual war–how to properly fulfill human potential through cultural change
  • Competitive fencer since high school
    • Finds the strategy of fencing physically and intellectually challenging
  • Finds religion a great tradition for embracing a community and grounding your values
    • “There just needs to be things that are bigger than you in your life” – Mark Zuckerberg
    • The Bible begins with creation, Mark thinks this is a very intentional message. We were made to create.
    • Has made religion more of a priority in his life since having children

Growth Happens on the Fringe

  • Being constantly misunderstood is mentally challenging, but it’s where the most growth happens
  • Train yourself to be uncomfortable – “If I’m doing something that feels well understood for too long, then I feel like I’m being complacent…At this point, if people fully understand what we are as a company, we’re not pushing it hard enough.” – Mark Zuckerberg
  • Have the conviction to push back on the world – “Let’s constantly be doing something that can be doubted” – Mark Zuckerberg

Virtual Reality & Metaverse

  • Even simple strides in establishing a presence in VR will be impressive, there is an incredible innovation runway
    • Think about eye contact, VR hopes to solve the lack of eye contact we lose over zoom calls (you can’t look at the screen and the camera at the same time)
  • Motion sickness in VR derives from the digital rendering not accurately aligning with your brain’s expectations
    • The problem is not completely solved, but it’s getting better
    • Sensitivity is subjective
  • The Metaverse could be an efficient way to test out social, economical, and political innovations
    • Explore different variables that are appealing to people before committing finite resources in the physical world to an idea or policy
  • “There’s a physical world and a digital world. The real world is actually both.” – Mark Zuckerberg
    • Learn how to live in the future, the world is moving towards being distributed first
    • Mark finds it odd that VR/AR related science fiction assumes the world is in a dystopian state, both worlds can positively coexist and even mutually benefit from each other

Organizational Values

  • “Values are only useful if you can legitimately disagree with them” – Mark Zuckerberg
    • Values like ‘be honest’ are so obvious that they aren’t very useful
    • Good values force you to give something up in order to get the benefit
  • Meta organizational values:
    • Eat your own dog food – use the products that you create
    • Move fast (with stable infrastructure) – focus on a continuously improving process that promotes productivity & innovation
    • Long term impact – evaluate progress over performance
    • Build awesome things – build things with a perfect balance of inspiration and substance
    • Live in the future – build a distributed and innovative working environment
    • Be direct and respectful – don’t “nice” yourself to death, hard conversations facilitate growth
    • Meta MetaMates Me – healthy relationship balance of company, team, and individual

The Oversight Board

  • The Oversight Board:It became increasingly clear to the Facebook company that it shouldn’t be making so many decisions about speech and online safety on its own. The Oversight Board was created to help Facebook answer some of the most difficult questions around freedom of expression online: what to take down, what to leave up, and why.
  • “There’s just no way that any single private company should be responsible for arbitrating so many questions of social values” – Mark Zuckerberg
  • Universal decision acceptance is an unattainable goal, but the oversight board helps make the decisions legitimate
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