Investing In Human Longevity And Future Tech | Christian Angermayer on The Pomp Podcast

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Key Takeaways

  • “For the first time in human history, we can literally reinvent what it means to be human… And, we need a proper discussion of what we want” – Christian Angermayer
    • The next 10-20 years will be incredibly volatile to society as technological innovation influences human longevity
    • Society is deeply behind the curve in having productive dialogue that balances politeness with honesty about what the future entails
  • It’s not mutually exclusive to practice common sense and follow scientific research
    • Vitamin D deficiency and obesity are two correlations to COVID that are often ignored to maintain political correctness – this is one example of not having productive dialogue
    • El Salvador just released a new ad campaign that promotes healthy living as the focal point of preventing COVID related hospitalization and death
  • One day, we are going to win more years per year than the one year that we lose
    • Aging is a disease – human longevity could see rapid advances in both body rejuvenation and technological integration in the next 20 years
  • “It’s almost a conventional wisdom that psychedelics will have a role to play in the mental health crisis” – Christian Angermayer
    • Christian is the co-founder of ATAI Life Sciences – they are researching psychedelics as a treatment option for mental health disorders including depression, anxiety, addiction, PTSD, and more
  • We are in a ‘silent war’ with China – not in the sense of armed conflict; but rather, claiming the international advantage over innovation speed

Intro

  • Christian Angermayer (@C_Angermayer) is the founder of Apeiron Investment Group which focuses largely on disruptive fintech and innovative life sciences. Christian and Pomp argue that society needs a more productive and honest dialogue to be prepared for future innovations in economics, human longevity, psychedelics, and more.
  • Host: Anthony ‘Pomp’ Pompliano (@APompliano)

Macroeconomic Predictions

  • Christian believes inflation is ‘mainly transitory’
    • A lot of money was pumped in but the major cause of inflation is from supply chain issues
    • We can live with 1%-3% interest rates – higher rates would be harmful towards innovation and the valuation of tech companies
  • Christian hypothesizes that Jerome Powell, chair of the federal reserve, was mandated to be verbally more hawkish before midterm elections
    • There is a current market overaction in biotech, growth stocks, and risk assets. Christian and Cathie Wood both label them undervalued.
    • Christian believes H1 of 2022 will be challenging but rationality will return to markets in H2 of 2022
  • We are in a ‘silent war’ with China – not in the sense of armed conflict; but rather, claiming the international advantage over innovation speed
    • After the Fed is done with the political battle over inflation, they could foster innovation as a utility to geopolitical strategy
  • Bitcoin and growth stocks move in tandem but Christian thinks they should decouple in the next 5 or so years

Apeiron Investment Group

  • Apeiron investment sectors: BioTech, Crypto/FinTech, future tech (AI, space tech, lab-grown food, etc.)
  • Cryptology Asset Group: Holding encompassing all of Christian’s crypto investments
    • Northern Data: becoming one of the largest global miners of Bitcoin and Ethereum
      • Currently have 18,000 A6 miners responsible for mining roughly 230 BTC
      • By EOY 2022, they plan to have 110,000 A6 miners installed responsible for mining roughly 1500 BTC per month
      • Bought 223,000 GPUs (graphics processing units), the largest cluster in the world, to mine Ethereum
      • They have a double business model: mining or renting out their computing power
    • block.one: represents an indirect stake of Bullish, an exchange for digital assets
      • Provides unprecedented liquidity depth
    • and more… see the full portfolio

Human Longevity

  • “Dying in the next 20 years is the most stupid time to die” – Christian Angermayer
    • Christian thinks in the next 20 years (plus or minus) we will be able to slow down and even reverse aging
    • The way you live your life in the next 20 years could cost you decades down the road as technology advances – if you make a mistake, you could miss out
  • There is a natural limit to age but Christian predicts living to be 100-110 will become normal
    • One day, we are going to win more years per year than the one year that we lose
    • Aging is a disease – opportunity rather than an inevitability
    • Biological age – quantifying age relative to how you feel rather than your birth age is an important concept in establishing new biomarkers for human longevity
  • Two schools of thought for human longevity intervention: repair & rejuvenate the body or merge with technology
    • We already have pacemakers and hip replacements, what’s next…?
    • Blackrock Neurotech: FDA approved implanted brain-computer interface
      • A paralysis patient was able to move an electronic arm with his thoughts
  • Christian believes that the concept of language is burdening and humanity could benefit from an intelligent interface being interconnected with communication
    • “We could leave behind a lot of the misunderstanding we have and transmit more complex thoughts than language is capable of” – Christian Angermayer
    • Communicating with our thoughts rather than our minds, a lot of context is lost in words

Political Correctness vs Science

  • It’s not mutually exclusive to practice common sense and follow scientific research
    • Vitamin D deficiency and obesity are two correlations to COVID that are often ignored to maintain political correctness
      • Christian questions why these two things are not mentioned in the same sentence as masks and vaccines (which he also supports)
      • El Salvador just released a new ad campaign that promotes healthy living as the focal point of preventing COVID related hospitalization and death
  • There’s no scientific evidence that says being overweight is good for you, so why do we protect it so much?
    • Social norms vs Science – the political correctness involved in obesity rides a fine line of bullying and wanting the best for someone based
    • We need ‘polite but intellectually stimulating dialogue’ on where we want society to go

Psychedelics

  • Christian is the co-founder of ATAI Life Sciences – they are researching psychedelics as a treatment option for mental health disorders including depression, anxiety, addiction, PTSD, and more
    • As of 2019, more than 1 billion people worldwide suffer from at least one mental health issue
    • “It’s almost a conventional wisdom that psychedelics will have a role to play in the mental health crisis” – Christian Angermayer
  • Psychedelics, for thousands of years, have traditionally been used in very spiritual and/or religious contexts, with the 1960s being an anomaly
    • Christian aims to not make psychedelic compounds broadly legal (like cannabis), but rather taken as a therapeutic under supervision to maintain the benefits of the ritualistic and medicinal aspects
    • The Immortality Key by Brian C. Muraresku discusses the countless examples of religions being based on psychedelic consumption
      • “Obviously, Moses was tripping on DMT” – Christian Angermayer
      • In Christian’s view, this makes the story more credible – Psychedelics were the tool to access ‘divine wisdom’
      • Context of religion is often lost in a text-based language
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