Joe Rogan Experience #1498 – Jon Stewart

Key Takeaways

  • If you’re a content creator, be prepared for people to make clips of your work and take it out of context
    • Often times people try to make the clips as outrageous as possible to get more eyeballs
      • “The internet has democratized outrage”Jon Stewart
      • “You get these little sounds bites so there are little video clips and you don’t understand the full context of the conversation or what was actually said and then people get outraged at that”Joe Rogan
  • “The only thing standing between American socialism is an inability to reform to meaningfully reform capitalism…and if we can’t do that, then the people take to the streets” Jon Stewart
    • Reform will save capitalism, not destroy it
      • Jon recites a quote from JFK: “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable”
  • “It’s always about money. We always have money for war but we almost never have money to pay for what are the absolutely could have seen a mile away consequences.”  Jon Stewart
  • The government denies a lot of soldiers’ injuries or illnesses that happened during war so that they aren’t responsible for the medical bill
    • “There are people who are still fighting the government over Agent Orange and still being denied…Stop fucking with these people and help them” Jon Stewart
  • “The project of this next generation is to build a stronger foundation, a granite bearing for everyone to stand on” – Jon Stewart
    • “We built a great middle class in the ‘50s for white people, we have to do the same now for the country” 
  • What does Jon believe the government should do to help people out during COVID?
    • “Suspend and extend” – Jon Stewart
      • Suspend rent and mortgage payments and extend the amount of time people have to pay it back. And give the landlords a real estate tax break.

Intro

  • Jon Stewart is a comedian, director, writer, producer, activist, and television host. He’s the director of the new film “Irresistible” that releases on June 26, 2020.
  • Host: Joe Rogan (@joerogan

Leaving At The Top

  • Jon quit late-night TV because he felt burned out
    • “It was just time. I felt like the audience needed a fresh perspective, I needed a fresh perspective…I just felt done” – Jon Stewart
      • Things became too cyclical and redundant 
  • Politics is a lot like pro-wrestling: there are characters and it’s a form of entertainment
  • A lot of the times when something horrendous happened, people expected Jon to say something profound, but on several occasions the weight of expectations became too difficult to navigate

Political Change & COVID

  • It upsets Jon that after 16 years of following politics, not much has changed
  • The George Floyd protests are a great start to enact change, but there’s still much work to be done
    • “We have to diagnose the real problem underlying this moment so that we don’t make the mistake of just changing the window dressing and the gilding on the buildings. This has to be foundational that in a way will create something lasting.” – Jon Stewart
  • The stimulus plan that was put in place during COVID was terrible
    • People got one $1,200 check to cover expenses across several months
    • There’s no accountability as to where parts of the stimulus package went to
  • “We built our society economically from the top down, like that’s the shit that’s got to change” – Jon Stewart
    • The people who are essential to our way of life have some of the worst paying jobs 
      • “They’re the most poorly compensated people in our society…for some reason since the ‘80s, the investor class has gotten the break and the working class has gotten minimized” – Jon Stewart
        • “We’ve devalued work while overvaluing investment”
  • “You should be able to work a job and not be poor. You should work a job and not need food stamps.’ – Jon Stewart
  • Health insurance shouldn’t be tied to your job
    • It’s a lot harder to start your own business when you have to worry about health insurance and providing cover for your kids

Investing In A Better World

  • We are all dealt different cards in life, some are better than others
    • Today if you want to climb the economic ladder, you first need to go to college and take on $200K in debt just to get a decent job
  • Black people haven’t been able to build equity and wealth through generations
    • The Homestead Act, the Federal Housing Administration, and the GI Bill were all made to help white families build equity
      • “Black people were explicitly excluded from that”Jon Stewart
  • “We don’t all start out at the same starting block so all you pull yourself up by your own bootstraps motherfuckers you’re lucky you have arms. There are people out there born with no arms.” – Joe Rogan
  • “The project of this next generation is to build a stronger foundation, a granite bearing for everyone to stand on” – Jon Stewart
    • “We built a great middle class in the ‘50s for white people, we have to do the same now for the country” 
  • “If you could give 25% more money to taxes but the world would be 50% better, wouldn’t you want to invest in that?” – Joe Rogan
  • Trump cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%, the money was supposed to be reinvested but most corporations just did buybacks 
    • “So they’re increasing their investor wealth through that as well” – Jon Stewart
      • More stimulus needs to be given or invested into the working class because that’s those are the people who do the actual work and keep the economy running
  • What does Jon believe the government should do to help people out during COVID?
    • “Suspend and extend” – Jon Stewart
      • Suspend rent and mortgage payments and extend the amount of time people have to pay it back. And give the landlords a real estate tax break.

We Need To Help Our Veterans 

  • During the Iraq and Iran war, contractors we hired to build burn pits that burned hazardous materials with jet fuel
    • Some of these burn pits were near bases where troops were breathing in these toxic particles
      • “They come home and you’re starting to see pulmonary issues, cancer issues, these guys are dying” – Jon Stewart
        • When they come back sick, the government does a poor job of caring for them and says they don’t have the funding to help them
          • “It’s always about money. We always have money for war but we almost never have money to pay for what are the absolutely could have seen a mile away consequences.” 
  • Jon’s solution: Make companies that profit off of war set aside 10% of their profits so when troops come back injured or sick, there’s money to help them
  • “You’re blowing people up and you’re not preparing for people to come back injured?” Joe Rogan
  • The government denies a lot of soldiers’ injuries or illnesses that happened during the war so that they aren’t responsible for the medical bill
    • “There are people who are still fighting the government over Agent Orange and still being denied…Stop fucking with these people and help them” Jon Stewart

Bailout People, Not Corporations

  • “How has this system become so corrupt and corroded that we can’t, anymore as a people, do the right thing” – Jon Stewart
  • In 2008, there was an enormous economic collapse and the world economy grinded to a halt
    • “So they come in and they pump billions of dollars into the organizations that sunk the fucking ship in the first place” – Jon Stewart
  • Jon had a conversation with the Treasury Secretary at the time and asked why not bailout people who couldn’t pay their mortgages instead of corporations?
    • His response: You can’t do that because of the moral hazard, meaning it would incentivize bad behavior
      • “So what he’s saying is the people that took out mortgages on their homes, that went underwater, that’s their fault. So you can’t bail them out because that would be sending a hazardous message morally about the economy.”Jon Stewart
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Content Creation & Social Media

  • If you’re a content creator, be prepared for people to make clips of your work and take it out of context
    • Often times people try to make the clips as outrageous as possible to get more eyeballs
      • “The internet has democratized outrage”Jon Stewart
      • “You get these little sounds bites so there’s little video clips and you don’t understand the full context of the conversation or what was actually said and then people get outraged at that”Joe Rogan
  • Podcasts are the cure to sound bites: Instead of listening to a clip for a few seconds, you can listen to a podcast and get the full 2-3 hour conversation
    • Being a podcaster is a skill: You have to let guests talk but stop them from rabbling, you have to move the conversation forward while keeping it entertaining, etc.
      • “I had to learn how to be a better communicator” – Joe Rogan
  • If you spend too much time on social media and read all of the comments, you’re putting your mental health at risk
    • “There’s going to be people that are upset with everybody for no reason no matter what the story is in the news” – Joe Rogan

Health & Hunting

  • This pandemic highlighted the vulnerabilities both in our economic system and our health system
  • To increase your chances of not getting COVID, exercise and take Vitamin C and D
  • You can train yourself how to be more disciplined, that’s what David Goggins did. He went from being nearly 300 lbs to being an ultra-endurance athlete. 
  • Exercise is a fantastic way to exert excess energy and also makes you feel better
    • “We’ve evolved to hunt and gather and build homes and survive from predators” Joe Rogan
  • A lot of people don’t know about factory farming and how antibiotics are pumped into animals 
    • “Try to educate yourself to how your meal gets to your table” Jon Stewart
  • Joe loves the experience of hunting because the meat tastes better when you have to put in the work to get it, but it’s also good because the money goes towards conversation issues
    • One elk usually supplies Joe with a year’s worth of meat
  • Having a farm is like having a nursing home, the animals are incredibly fragile
    • “The health of these animals that are in our food supply, that are a main staple of our food supply, is really suspect” – Jon Stewart
      • If farm animals are like people in a nursing home, a wild animal is like a professional athlete

Additional Notes

  • “The only thing standing between American socialism is an inability to reform to meaningfully reform capitalism…and if we can’t do that, then the people take to the streets” Jon Stewart
    • Reform will save capitalism, not destroy it
      • Jon recites a quote from JFK: “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable”
  • “There’s got to be more emphasis on testing and there’s got to be more emphasis on showing people how to keep their immune system healthy” – Joe Rogan
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