Joe Rogan Experience #1512 – Joe De Sena

Key Takeaways

  •  “It’s not rocket science. You eat shit foods, you’re not active, you’re gaining weight. You eat good food, you’re very active, you lose weight.” Joe De Sena 
  • When the only things you’re eating are fruits and veggies, it’s nearly impossible to starve or overeat
    • “If you only eat salad, you’re never going to overeat salad”Joe De Sena
  • When Joe was 12, the mafia boss hired him to clean his pool every week. The first day on the job, he gave Joe three pieces of advice:
    • Being on time is late, always show up 15 minutes early
    • Go above and beyond in your job so that you become irreplaceable
    • Never ask for money, you’ll get paid if you do a good job
      • “Really good lessons from, like you say, a most an unlikely source of advice” – Joe De Sena 
  • “Videogames are a real problem. They’re a real problem, you know why? Because they’re fucking fun…You do them and they’re real exciting but you don’t get anywhere.” Joe Rogan
  • “One of the best benefits of sports is you realize that through hard work you get improvement, through improvement you get success…You get this knowledge that you can do something that’s difficult and you can overcome even though it feels like you can’t.” Joe Rogan
  • “Kids need to do hard shit and they need to finish what they start”Joe De Sena
  • In ancient times, humans didn’t have constant access to food. This may explain why there are so many health benefits to fasting because it gives our stomachs a break and prevents us from overeating:
    • “I would think our stomachs and our digestive system needs time. It’s not used to just constantly taking food on demand.” – Joe De Sena 
  • In life you always have to pay your dues: Either you pay now and enjoy being successful later or you enjoy doing nothing now and pay with the feeling of regret later
    • “A person who goes through life without ever being tested is a sad person” Joe Rogan

Intro

  • Joe De Sena (@realJoeDeSena) is the CEO and founder of Spartan and the Death Race. He is also a NY Times best-selling author of Spartan Up, Spartan Fit and The Spartan Way.
  • Host: Joe Rogan (@joerogan)

Books Mentioned

Helping A Guy Lose 400 Pounds

  • Joe helped a guy who weighed 696 lbs get down to 265 lbs in 18 months
    • Joe accomplished this by putting the guy on a strict raw fruits and vegetable diet and having him hike 10 miles daily
      • When the only things you’re eating are fruits and veggies, it’s nearly impossible to starve or overeat
        • “If you only eat salad, you’re never going to overeat salad”Joe De Sena
  • Joe helped another person go from 300 lbs to 200 lbs in just 30 days
    • Same strategy: Eat raw fruits and veggies, and hike 10 miles daily
  • “It’s not rocket science. You eat shit foods, you’re not active, you’re gaining weight. You eat good food, you’re very active, you lose weight.” Joe De Sena 
  • If you want to get in shape, there are countless free workouts on YouTube
    • You don’t need any fancy gym equipment, you can get an awesome workout in with just bodyweight exercises

Life Advice From A Mafia Boss

  • Joe grew up in Howard Beach, Queens and lived next to a mafia boss
    • The mafia boss told Joe that the best thing anyone could do on Earth was to help people
  • When Joe was 12, the mafia boss hired him to clean his pool weekly. The first day on the job, he gave Joe three pieces of advice:
    • Being on time is late, always show up 15 minutes early
    • Go above and beyond in your job so that you become irreplaceable
    • Never ask for money, you’ll get paid if you do a good job
      • “Really good lessons from, like you say, a most an unlikely source of advice” – Joe De Sena 
  • By the time Joe graduated from college, his pool cleaning business grew to 700 customers

Hard Work + Intelligence = Top Performer

  • To get to the top of every sport, you need to have an incredible work ethic and intelligence
    • When you combine those two, you get a Michael Jordan or Mike Tyson
      • Intelligence isn’t about being book smart, it’s about knowing your craft, studying those who have mastered it, and constantly learning from others
        • “They have the passion for the sport, they have this insane dedication, and they also have incredible talent. Those are the GOATs.” Joe Rogan
  • A lot of the time, people mistake a lack of discipline for lack of focus:
    • Someone may be majoring in electrical engineering but since they aren’t excited about it, they don’t have the drive and don’t focus on doing the work. But if you take that same person and tell them they can be a golfer, and they love golf, they will become focused and practice daily.
      • “It’s not that he didn’t have any discipline, he’s just not interested in that other thing” – Joe Rogan

Teach Kids Struggle & Success

  • Over the summer, Joe De Sena started a fitness camp for kids that lasted 14 days (no video games or phones allowed)
    • The kids were from 7-18 years old
      • The camp instructors were an Olympic wrestler, a mountain warfare school veteran, and an agroecological teacher
        • The kids carried rocks, went hiking, swam in cold water, and did other similar activities you’d do in a Spartan Race
          • Many kids hated the first week but once they were done, they thanked Joe and felt better about themselves
  • “Videogames are a real problem. They’re a real problem, you know why? Because they’re fucking fun…You do them and they’re really exciting but you don’t get anywhere.” Joe Rogan
  • “One of the best benefits of sports is you realize that through hard work you get improvement, through improvement you get success…You get this knowledge that you can do something that’s difficult and you can overcome even though it feels like you can’t.” Joe Rogan
  • “Kids need to do hard shit and they need to finish what they start”Joe De Sena
  • You feel better when you earn things: Walking into to BJJ gym and getting a black belt doesn’t feel as good as training for years and earning your black belt
  • In life you always have to pay your dues: Either you pay now and enjoy being successful later or you enjoy doing nothing now and pay with the feeling of regret later
    • “A person who goes through life without ever being tested is a sad person” Joe Rogan
    • “Anyone could be good when times are good” – Joe De Sena

Starting Spartan Races

  • After leaving Wall Street, Joe De Sena started doing marathons and different races, and felt good after doing them
    • “I had so much fun with it that I said I want to do this for other people. I want to put on events and have them experience it.”Joe De Sena
      • Joe got some obstacles and created a military-style race which he called Spartan
        • Today, Spartan does 300+ events in 45+ countries. Each event has about 8,000 people, they have 1.6 million participants a year.
  • Spartan recently acquired their competitor Tough Mudder

Sacrificing Health For Creativity

  • Creativity is weird. Stephen King created most of his best work when he was addicted to cocaine and alcohol, and doesn’t even remember writing some of his books.
    • Charles Bukowski wrote amazing books but he was an alcoholic as well
  • “When it comes to creative endeavors, sometimes indulgence…it’s not self-care but the results are spectacular” – Joe Rogan 
    • Doing drugs or other substances isn’t good for the body, but sometimes the results from one’s creativity are incredible
      • “Sometimes people sacrifice health and they sacrifice wellness in order to achieve creative goals…the results for some people are amazing”
  • Joe Rogan doesn’t encourage anyone to sacrifice their health to achieve their creative goals; he’s simply pointing out this concept 

Thoughts on COVID

  • COVID has shown us the impact one virus can have on modern civilization
    • “A civilization could engineer a pandemic and infect another civilization” – Joe Rogan
    • “It crippled the whole world” – Joe De Sena
  • COVID exposed our health and financial weaknesses
  • If Florida were a country, it would have the 4th highest rate of infection in the world
  • 50,000 events around the world have been shut down because of COVID
    • Spartan usually runs 325 events a year, Joe says that he’ll be lucky to run 20 events in 2020

Additional Notes

  • In ancient times, humans didn’t have constant access to food. This may explain why there are so many health benefits to fasting because it gives our stomachs a break and prevents us from overeating:
    • “I would think our stomachs and our digestive system needs time. It’s not used to just constantly taking food on demand.” – Joe De Sena 
  • Joe carries a 44-pound kettlebell with him everywhere he goes
  • “I was allergic to the idea of having a nine to five. I’ve never been in an office.”Joe Rogan
    • Joe’s career path: “I just delivered newspapers, I worked on construction sites, I drove limos, and then I became a comic”
  • The Edison Gene: ADHD and the Gift of the Hunter Child by Thom Hartmann 
    • Joe De Sena enjoyed this book because it explains the possibility of ADHD being a gene and how having ADHD can be beneficial in life
  • “When you can’t change your situation, you change yourself”– Joe De Sena
  • There’s a 3,100-mile run that still exists today in Queens, New York
    • It’s called the Self-Transcendence 3100 Mile Race
      • It’s a one-mile loop and lasts for 50-60 days
  • Don’t focus on life span, focus on healthspan
    • You want to be old but still healthy, not old and laying in bed all-day
  • 80% of people in the ICUs with COVID had Vitamin D deficiencies
  • The government and doctors spend almost no time informing people about the importance of a well-rounded diet
  • For most people, the best motivation is positive. However, for others, they need to be near death’s door to wake up and reevaluate their life.
  • Working out and eating healthy improves your life and your interactions with other people
    • “The more that you can mitigate your own stress levels, the more that you can calm the demons inside you, the better you’re going to interact with people” – Joe Rogan
  • “There’s always room to grow and learn” – Joe Rogan
  • Joe Rogan is moving to Texas because it is less crowded and has more freedom
  • It takes about 2 years to create a 1-hour comedy special
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