Joe Rogan Experience #1512 – Ben Shapiro

Key Takeaways

  • We don’t know how effective masks are at preventing the spread of COVID, but we know it’s more effective than wearing nothing
    •  “We’re still taking this thing really seriously, I’m still wearing a mask around public places and I think people should. It’s a responsible thing to do” – Ben Shapiro
  • Boost your immune system to decrease your chances of getting COVID:
    • Eliminate alcohol, caffeine, and sugar
    • Take vitamin supplements
    • Get vitamin D from the sun
    • Exercise
  •  “The number one predictor of intergenerational poverty in the United States remains single motherhood”Ben Shapiro
    • Single motherhood in the black community in 1960 was 20%, today it is 70% 
    • Single motherhood in the white community in 1960 was 5%, today it is 40%
  • Ben’s strategy to reduce poverty:
    • Load the place with police to stop crime
    • Once crime stops, businesses will be happy to invest
    • Those businesses will help provide jobs
    • Businesses can also provide education through training or internships
    • You need social institutions (like churches) that promote family values
  • Social media makes it incredibly easy for people to constantly compare themselves and their lives to other people
    • “It’s one thing to shoot for better, it’s another thing to shoot for the unattainable and then be upset when you can never reach the unattainable” Ben Shapiro
      • “People are flawed, society’s flawed, you’re flawed; do the best you can” – Ben Shapiro

Intro

  • Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) is an American conservative political commentator, public speaker, media executive, author, and attorney
  • Host: Joe Rogan (@joerogan

Books Mentioned

  • Ben calls White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo an awful book. Why? Ben doesn’t agree with the author’s definition of racism that any structure that results in racial inequality is racist.
  • Joe and Ben both enjoyed reading The Happiness Hypothesis by Jonathan Haidt
    • In the book, the author shares that many incorrectly believe the passion of the start in a relationship will last forever

The Fall of Downtown LA

  • A heavy percentage of people who are homeless are drug-addicted or mentally ill
  • The Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) used to have the authority to move people’s belongings if it was on the sidewalk but then the ACLU sued them and the courts ruled that cops weren’t allowed to move people’s belongings because it was their personal property
    • Then the courts ruled it was okay for people to live in their cars
  • Since the riots, parts of LA have started to shut down at 6 PM. Beverly Hills shut down at 1 PM for protests.

Protests, COVID & More

  • The protests were an opportunity for people to come together to create meaningful police reform. Instead, it’s turned into riots, lotting, and chaos
  • Wear a mask!
    • “We’re still taking this thing really seriously, I’m still wearing a mask around public places and I think people should. It’s a responsible thing to do” – Ben Shapiro
      •  We don’t know how effective masks are at preventing the spread of COVID, but we know it’s more effective than wearing nothing
  • “Nobody has a good solution on this thing” – Ben Shapiro
    • For now, the best thing we can do is wear a mask, socially distance, and maintain proper hygiene  
  • We need some form of policing. NYC has had record levels of crime since a decrease in cops.
    • “At some point, somebody’s got to restore some semblance of law and order here” – Ben Shapiro
  • For some reason, when people protested the lockdown, health officials said it was dangerous to do so because it would spread COVID faster. However, health officials approved the protests for BLM.
  • The main vector for transmission for COVID are closed areas where people are in close proximity for long periods of time (bars, religious venues, etc.)
    • “The number one vector for transmission remains the home…people going home and giving it to each other” – Ben Shapiro
  • Protesters and looters should be treated as two different groups
    • Protesters should have a right to peaceful protests
    • Anyone who breaks windows and loots should be arrested and sent to jail

Work On Your Immune System

  • Boost your immune system to decrease your chances of getting COVID:
    • Eliminate alcohol, caffeine, and sugar
    • Take vitamin supplements
    • Get vitamin D from the sun
    • Exercise

Thoughts on Racism

  • Ben calls White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo an awful book. Why? Ben doesn’t agree with the author’s definition of racism that any structure that results in racial inequality is racist.
    • “What they say is in order to be anti-racist, is you have to want to tear down the entire system, they literally say this” – Ben Shapiro
  • The 1619 Project is a project by the New York Times that says that country was founded in 1619 with the importation of the first African American slaves and every racial disparity is attributed to historic disparities between white and blacks
    • “The 1619 project has essays blaming literally everything on racism…every racial disparity is attributable to a system that was rooted in slavery.” – Ben Shapiro
      • Ben doesn’t agree with the 1619 Project
  • “The story of black America should be a story of unbelievably brave people triumphing over systems that sucked. That is the story of black America.” – Ben Shapiro

Thoughts on Poverty & Fixing It

  •  If you grow up in a disadvantaged community, it’s hard to make the right choices and get ahead in life when you have no positive role models
    • “If you’re in these isolated environments and everyone around you is involved in gangs and crime and drugs, it’s very difficult to model yourself after something you don’t see in real life” – Joe Rogan
  • The US has spent $22 trillion on the war on poverty, and we have about the same number of African Americans living below the poverty line as in the late 1970s
  • “The number one predictor of intergenerational poverty in the United States remains single motherhood”Ben Shapiro
    • Single motherhood in the black community in 1960 was 20%, today it is 70% 
    • Single motherhood in the white community in 1960 was 5%, today it is 40%
  • Ben’s strategy to reduce poverty:
    • Load the place with police to stop crime
    • Once crime stops, businesses will be happy to invest
    • Those businesses will help provide jobs
    • Businesses can also provide education through training or internships
    • You need social institutions (like churches) that promote family values

Police Reform & Abuse

  • Police are needed in society, but certain changes need to be made:
    • Abridge qualified immunity so cops become more responsible for their actions
    • Police union contracts need to be redone across the country because they often protect bad cops
    • There needs to be a national registry of cops who have violated procedures so that they can’t leave on one police department and join another
  • Ben argues that police aren’t a huge threat to black Americans:
    • “The Washington Post database last year showed a grand total of 15 black Americans shot unarmed, across the United States in a country of 42 million black people” – Ben Shapiro
      • “There are 330 million police interactions every year” 
  • “There have been multiple studies that show that black people are not in more danger of being shot by cops than white people. But it is true that low-level uses of force between cops and black people are worse than low-level uses of force between cops and white people.” – Ben Shapiro
  • When it comes to murders, people tend to die most by people of their own race:
    • “If you’re talking about actual murders, white people are killed by white people, black people are killed by black people” – Ben Shapiro

Love & Relationships

  • Sex is the most sold drug in America: It’s used to sell cars, homes, lifestyle, and much more
  • Joe and Ben both enjoyed reading The Happiness Hypothesis by Jonathan Haidt
    • In the book, the author shares that a lot of people falsely believe the passion in the start a relationship will last forever
      • At the beginning of a relationship, guys tend to care about passionate love instead of shared values. But as time goes on, the priorities reverse.
  • The longer you live together with someone before you get married, the higher the divorce rate 
  • Ben knew his wife for 3 months before getting engaged. They’ve been married for 12 years and have 3 kids together.
  • Having a polyamorous relationship looks better than a monogamous but chances are it isn’t

Dangers of Social Media

  • Social media makes it incredibly easy for people to constantly compare themselves and their lives to other people
    • “It’s one thing to shoot for better, it’s another thing to shoot for the unattainable and then be upset when you can never reach the unattainable” Ben Shapiro
      • “People are flawed, society’s flawed, you’re flawed, do the best you can” – Ben Shapiro
  • Social media is specifically designed to be addictive
    • “We’re not equipped to navigate social media…we didn’t grow up with it, we didn’t evolve with it” – Joe Rogan

Additional Notes

  • Change happens slowly then all at once
    • “It’s a gradual decline and then it’s just off a cliff” – Ben Shapiro
  • Colin Kaepernick started taking a knee during the national anthem after cops drew guns on him in his own town
  •  Cultural appropriation is a good thing:
    • “The reason people live in major cities is to go to all the different restaurants from all the different cultures…cultural appropriation is the greatest thing that has ever happened to planet Earth” – Ben Shapiro
      • The world would suck in every culture was stuck in their own silo
  • Although a lot of historical figures weren’t perfect, they did make some major accomplishments 
    • Thomas Jefferson did draft the Declaration of Independence but he was also a slave owner
  • The US definitely has its flaws, but when you compare it to other countries it isn’t as bad as it looks. China is currently putting Muslims on trains and shipping them to concentration camps and sterilizing them.
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