Chris Williamson | Joe Rogan Experience Podcast Episode #1851

Key Takeaways

  • Knowing when to talk and when not to is a skill and a rare sign of social intelligence
  • Jealousy is a stupid emotion because we never want the whole package, (rough childhood, mental health problems, injuries, etc.) only the best parts
  • Two major factors why this generation is doing worse than their parents are finances and property
  • Intersectionality inevitably leads to one person being the most oppressed person in the entire world
    • That’s why white gay privilege is now a thing – an intersecting hierarchy of grievance
  • “The US is in the recession at the moment but it’s not allowed to be called a recession.”Chris Williamson
    • The Wikipedia article got changed; they redefined recession
  • “You can basically argue that the culture war is largely two armies of NPCs being ventriloquized by a handful of actual thinkers above them.”Chris Williamson
  • “Donald Trump broke a lot of people. He broke a lot of people’s ability to objectively look at the other side as having a different perspective on things”Joe Rogan
  • Joe is not vaccine skeptical, he is propaganda skeptical
    • There is a lot of evidence that point to the deception of pharma companies (misleading results, hidden trials, etc.)
  • Psychadelic capitalism- big pharma realizes that the psychedelic world might be legalized therapeutically (and even recreationally) so they want to make ownable versions of drugs
  • There is no firm place for men to stand currently; a lot of the traditional roles have gone away
    • Patriarchy was deemed bad, and masculine values together with it
  • “What is it that I am supposed to genuinely be proud of that is a part of me? Am I supposed to be a protector and a provider or is that part of the patriarchal superstructure which is keeping everybody down?”Chris Williamson
  • The region-beta paradox- people can sometimes recover more quickly from more intense emotions or pain than from less distressing experiences
    • “If things are just about passable, you end up being comfortably numb.”Chris Williamson
  • Podcasters give you an alternative way to live your life
    • Chris started the Modern Wisdom podcast because he wanted to speak to people that might have the answers and move him a little bit closer to where he is supposed to be
    • “Every single time that I leaned into something that I wanted to do a little bit more it reminded me of the direction that I was going and that was the drink that I was thirsty for.”Chris Williamson
  • The manosphere (red pill, black pill, MGTOW, incels, etc.)
    • “If a group that you associate with is saying ‘Don’t associate with the opposite sex and have a loving and happy relationship’, that’s just because they don’t think it’s attainable to them.”Joe Rogan
  • People decide not to do a thing until they know the direction they are going to go in
    • That means no step is useful until they know the end goal
    • What they don’t understand is that any commitment you are going to make is a step in the right direction
  • You don’t just get to be happy all the time
    • You have to face discomfort to appreciate happiness
    • “The sun doesn’t feel good anymore in SoCal, it’s there every f*ckin day.” – Joe Rogan

Intro

  • Chris Williamson (T: @ChrisWillx and IG: @chriswillx) is a British YouTuber, former professional party boy, and host of the Modern Wisdom Podcast
  • #1 podcast episode in the UK & USA. What is “white gay privilege”? Why do we need discomfort to appreciate happiness? How can podcasters change your life for the better? Joe Rogan and Chris Williamson sit down for more than 3 hours to explore some of the hottest questions we face today in the calmest way possible
    • Chris: “Let’s get more coffee.”
    • Joe: “Nah, we’re good.”
  • Host: Joe Rogan (@joerogan)

On the Price of Greatness and the Futility of Jealousy

  • Joe compliments Chris on being one of the greatest listeners in the biz
    • Knowing when to talk and when not to is a skill and a rare sign of social intelligence
    • Chris always wanted to interrupt because he was unsure of himself
    • It took him 4 and a half years to deprogram that (he goes more into detail about this later)
  • The price of greatness – mental health problems and fractured leg bones?
    • E.g. Michael Jordan is one of the greatest but he is obsessed with winning to the point he is an a**hole
      • “You get someone who has physical talent, genetic gifts, the mind for it, discipline, consistent work ethic, and then you get greatness. But also mental illness…”Joe Rogan
    • You never know the price someone had to pay to become great
    • E.g. Tiger Woods started playing golf at a very young age
      • His father, Earl Woods started teaching him the basics of the game when he was 2 years old
      • He was racially abusing him on the golf course
      • They had a safe word (“enough”) in case it became too rough (Tiger never used it)
  • Is jealousy a stupid emotion?
    • Do you want Tiger Woods’ skill and popularity?
    • But do you also want his childhood, struggle with self-worth to the point where you basically can’t have a long-term relationship? Suffering multiple leg injuries, being on anti-psychotics?
    • That is sometimes the price you have to pay to have that degree of greatness. You don’t get to choose one element of someone and say “I want that.”
    • All of the things you don’t want are part of the whole package. That’s why jealousy doesn’t make sense for Chris
  • “Jealousy is dumb because it doesn’t serve you any purpose.”Joe Rogan
    • It’s a necessary feeling because it forces people to compete, work harder, etc., but it’s not self-serving
    • You have to treat it as a personal weakness, it lies to you and makes you feel like you are better than you are so you won’t work as hard
    • “If there is someone that is in your line of work, and that person is achieving great success, there is a natural human tendency to be jealous of that person.”Joe Rogan
    • But instead, recognize jealousy as a weakness on your part and make the choice to be inspired

Is This Generation Doing Worse Than Its Parents?

  • This is the first generation that is doing worse than their parents. There is something structurally wrong here according to Chris
  • Two major factors are finances and property
    • Real living wages have stayed static since the middle of the 1970s
    • Getting onto the property market at the moment is very difficult
  • Chris believes a lot of the traditions that we used to have are being outsourced to the state
    • You don’t need the protector-provider role anymore because we have a robust legal system and government, social safety nets, etc.
    • People end up feeling listless and existentially lonely because of it
  • Joe doesn’t agree and he doesn’t have much faith in the safety systems anyway, at least not in the US
    • He believes in the worst case the social safety nets alleviate ambitions
    • That’s what people were worried about when it came to universal basic income
    • However, some people are just not ambitious. Usually, it’s with people that had some sort of a safety net in their life, in Joe’s experience
  • There is a certain problem with generations that feel entitled, attitude and overwhelming idea that the government is responsible for you
    • Then people start looking at and attacking billionaires (90% tax)
  • Capitalism is like a game; you have ok players, but then you have Michael Jordan (you are not going to get to that stage without effort & time)

UK-US Differences Discussing Strippers and Homeless People

  • On tips and strippers
    • Tipping is not expected in Britain the way it is in some other countries, Chris had to get used to it in the US
    • He didn’t tip the waitress at a strip club and got scolded
  • Getting paid less than minimum wage and relying on tips is not a good option
    • A way better solution is that you get paid a living wage and the tips are extra if you are good at your job and deserve more
  • Homeless people are more aggressive in the US, bad mental health services, and nobody takes them off the streets
    • In the UK, you are getting picked up by the National Health Service
    • The idea that these people need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps is a horrible way of looking at it
    • It’s a failure of the system

“White Gay Privilege” Is Now a Thing

  • Purity spiral – a situation in which members of an ideological group become increasingly zealous and intolerant, eventually turning on other members
  • Intersectionality inevitably leads to one person being the most oppressed person in the entire world
  • That’s why white gay privilege is now a thing – an intersecting hierarchy of grievance
    • If you are only gay, you are basically not anything anymore
  • Women in sports – hey, we recognize inequality but trans women are now a bigger deal
  • Non-crime hate incidents in the UK – micro-aggression managed by bureaucracy 
    • No guns, no mass shootings, but a lot of hate crime incidents and people doing dumb stuff
  • The UK is an interesting place at the moment, they have imported a lot of the culture war from the US but not much capture
    • Probably because the class system is more pronounced and more restrictive. People know where their “station” is

Is the US in a Recession? (Culture Wars)

  • “The US is in the recession at the moment but it’s not allowed to be called a recession.”Chris Williamson
    • The Wikipedia article got changed, they redefined recession. The recession used to be two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth
    • This is not an accepted definition anymore
  • We can call it whatever we want, but all the criteria of what’s happening indicate a recession
    • Obviously, the midterm elections are coming up and they need to make sure that recession is not something that can be thrown at the democrats
    • People think this is trivial, but changing the language to pretend you are doing a good job is bad news
  • “Everybody’s opinions and their words now are what everyone’s judged on, not their deeds.”Chris Williamson
    • Our deeds used to be the most obvious criteria, but now due to social media people are judged on their words far more
    • Two-step flow theory – opinion leaders who are directly influenced by mass media, help shape the views of most individuals in society
    • People take on the opinion of whoever their favorite tough leader is
    • “You can basically argue that the culture war is largely two armies of NPCs being ventriloquized by a handful of actual thinkers above them.”Chris Williamson
  • Ideologies and tribalism – what people gravitate towards; a group of people that they feel they can fit into and then they adopt their patterns of thinking instead of coming up with their own opinions
    • You can see a lot of ideological capture on Twitter- people arguing about politics all day long 

Why Are People So Concerned About Politics at the Moment?

  • “Donald Trump broke a lot of people. He broke a lot of people’s ability to objectively look at the other side as having a different perspective on things”Joe Rogan
    • Instead of that, it became a binary view of the way the world works; either you are with us or against us
    • People still haven’t recovered from that and realized how bad that is for your thinking
    • It’s also bad for the group that you support because you are encouraging the other side to attack you
    • It’s all about encouraging the divide that the US is stricken with at the moment according to Joe
  • Aligning yourself with a particular party is always going to be a problem
    • Some people feel like they can’t talk about things that are not aligned with their party’s values 
    • It’s hard to break free because you risk being attacked by your community whenever you deviate
    • That’s what binary perspective on politics does for you
    • In 2012, people started voting for the distaste of the opposition
    • It was more about “I am not that” than “I am this.”
  • Why is everything now about politics?
    • It’s an easy attack vector, very effective
    • Nicki Minaj tweeted about her friend’s swollen testicles and people freaked out (attacked her for supporting vaccine hesitancy)

“One Size Fits All Healthcare Policies Are Stupid.” – Joe Rogan

  • They don’t address the fact that there are a wide range of human beings in the country
    • Joe is not vaccine skeptical, he is propaganda skeptical
    • There is a lot of evidence that point to the deception of pharma companies (misleading results, hidden trials, etc.)
    • Massive corporations have done this forever (opioid epidemic)
  • Psychadelic capitalism- big pharma realizes that the psychedelic world might be legalized therapeutically (and even recreationally) so they want to make ownable versions of drugs
    • A bunch of companies are trying to synthesize a patentable, ownable version of drugs (MDMA, LSD, psilocybin, etc.)
    • A drug gets created and over time gets generic (anybody can make it)
    • Here is the opposite; we have the existence of a generic off-brand label drug and now big pharma companies think they could own some of this down the line and profit
  • In general, psychedelic drugs encourage compassion, dissolving of the ego, community, and love
    • Maybe these companies via profiting from psychedelics could start to invest in community centers, and rebuild neighborhoods because of the overall image
      • Using and profiting from psychedelics they could feel an obligation to enhance the community that is serving them (Joe’s wishes)
  • In Joe’s experience, using psychedelics (he knows some people using them in big tech companies) in micro-dosing can change your perspective, interaction with the market, etc.

On Psychopaths in Society

  • Why do psychopaths exist, and how are they adaptive?
    • Over the entire size of the population, a few of the psychopaths actually make sense
    • “On an individual level it might not be fantastic for the people around them, but in a tribe, it’s actually quite adaptive and useful.”Chris Williamson
    • Psychopaths are now easier to hide in society; they can move from town to town, change their name, change their social media names, etc.
  • To be a clinically diagnosed psychopath you have to have committed a criminal act
    • You can have the biological determinants of being a psychopath and it doesn’t need to manifest
  • Psychopath checklist for diagnosis
    • They tend to be pretty effective in the world
    • Grandiose narcissism – genuinely believe they are better than everyone else
    • Vulnerable narcissism – hiding the fact that they don’t believe they are anything
  • Study on psychopaths, what traits are they looking at?
    • Brain activation in particular activation that responds to the imagery being shown (images that should show empathy)
    • Lack of empathy is one of the main determinants
  • What about general desensitization (people being able to access horrific imagery online more than ever before)?
    • Can video games and violent films desensitize us to violent imagery?
    • Studying a reaction to images is different than seeing them in real life. The threshold is different
    • People are much more comfortable with seeing horrific things today, particularly things that are not real (movies, games, etc.)
    • Getting accustomed to semi-realistic imagery
    • Violent video-game ain’t going to do much harm to a fully formed adult human being, but if you are being raised on the internet, and lack social connection, then it could be a problem for your overall being

Nature vs Nurture

  • How much of what we are is genetics and how much is our environment?
    • Robert Plomin study: the only way you can do this is with identical twins; with the same genetics but you split test in terms of what happens with the environment
  • Pretty much 50% of what you are psychologically is because of your genes
    • It’s generally accepted that height is pretty heritable (around 90%), but the same goes for depression, alcoholism, etc.
    • In a world of meritocracy, people want to believe they can be anything they dream to be, but genetics says there are a lot of restrictions

Free Will vs Determinism

  • How much free will do you actually have?
    • Are you a person or a conglomeration of ideas and thoughts and genetics?
    • How much will and control do you have over the things you say and you do?
    • Joe believes there is something about the external pressures you get from the community that affect your choices
    • You also take into account the thoughts and feelings of others; that is a version of free will
  • Learning about determinism could be an information hazard; learning about it can make you less caring, less diligent, and less conscientious with things that you do

The Reverse Role-Model

  • Lack of positive role models
    • Having a negative role model is just as useful as having a positive one
    • Avoiding ruin could be more useful than trying to achieve success
    • That’s why sometimes successful people come from a bad environment
    • It is more important to avoid destruction than it is to chase success
  • A lot of success in life can be achieved by avoiding stupidity rather than trying to be smart
    • You can get a huge way through existence simply by avoiding ruin
    • “Use the people that you don’t look up to as warning flags in the ground to direct you away from areas that you don’t want to be.” Chris Williamson

On MMA, Boxing, and Talent

  • Generally, it’s important to have traditional martial arts or boxing training early on, especially if you want to go pro
    • But a lot of things people do can enhance your ability to learn boxing and MMA 
    • E.g. the environment you grow up in, Tyson Fury was around people fighting all the time
      • There is a long history of bare-knuckle boxing in the gypsy community
    • There are exceptions; Deontay Wilder started boxing 20 years old
  • Artur Beterbiev – is the only boxer that’s a world champion and has won all of his professional fights by knockout or stoppage
  • Vasiliy Lomachenko – spectacular footwork and “flowy” technique
    • His father/trainer told him to take 2 years off boxing and concentrate on Ukrainian traditional dance
    • Nobody moves like that, he’s not there to be hit
  • Is it typical for fighters to constantly move up weight categories?
    • It depends. Marvin Hagler (Joe’s favorite boxer) was 160 his entire career and dominated everyone
    • That’s also how people accumulate tons of titles-moving through categories
    • Unfortunately, sometimes with the help of steroids and supplements, especially in boxing (Aaron Pryor’s Black Bottle)

Masculinity in the Modern World

  • It’s a strange time for men and women due to the rethinking of gender roles
    • There is no firm place for men to stand currently; a lot of the traditional roles have gone away
    • Patriarchy was deemed bad, and masculine values together with it
  • A lot of it depends on the circles you hang around with
    • “Masculinity is always going to be something women are attracted to.”Joe Rogan
    • According to Joe, women want a masculine man that is also nice
    • They want masculinity, but not all the shitty things that come with it: misogyny, abuse, etc.
  • Traditionally, masculinity was always about having respect for women: protector and provider
    • That has gone away in the eyes of a lot of people (the positive aspects of masculine characteristics)
    • “There was a lot bad things, men that needed to be called to account for certain things, but unfortunately lumped in with that was the firm place that men got to stand on.”Chris Williamson
  • Masculinity became very in vogue in Ukraine when Russia invaded
  • “What is it that I am supposed to genuinely be proud of that is a part of me? Am I supposed to be a protector and a provider or is that part of the patriarchal superstructure which is keeping everybody down?”Chris Williamson
  • When do you say that the man is the protector, who are you protecting them from? 
    • Is it from other men? That highlights the problem. The men are the problem.
    • Humans will always find a way to compete with each other. Especially when it comes to a mate

Chasm of Comfortable Complacency

  • The region-beta paradox- people can sometimes recover more quickly from more intense emotions or pain than from less distressing experiences
    • The person that should leave their job, but it’s not that bad because they have benefits and their boss is not a complete jerk
    • A relationship went awry, but still comfortable in some way
    • All of these people would be better if the situations were worse because it would make them act
    • “If things are just about passable, you end up being comfortably numb.”Chris Williamson
  • What should someone do in that situation? A lot of people are in really suppressive office environments, dealing with ego maniac bosses
    • You are suppressed all day long, and because things aren’t that bad, the activation energy isn’t there to kick you out of it
    • It’s dangerous. This is the way that people are being sedated into a life that they really don’t want to lead
    • Because the world has become so comfortable, people look to artificially inject discomfort
    • Without that, if you actively don’t go and seek it you could easily breeze through life
    • And that is why a lot of people are overwhelmed with anxiety
  • Joe creates his own bullsh!t to mitigate the stress of the world, success, pressure, criticism, etc.
    • “I do to myself way worse than they are ever going to do to me.”Joe Rogan
    • He also calms his mind by calming his body, and he calms his body through work
    • He makes himself do very uncomfortable things, that he doesn’t want to do, and with that, he builds his strength and perseverance
    • It doesn’t have to be grueling; take a walk instead of scrolling on your smartphone
    • But force yourself to do it every day 
    • You will develop mental perseverance and some tenacity, the ability to force yourself into work
    • Just make it a thing that you have to do
    • For Chris, this is a problem of how mimetic we are and what people are told life is supposed to be like

Podcasts (An Alternative Way to Live Your Life)

  • Podcasters give you an alternative way to live your life
    • They have a massive advantage
    • “There is a direct source from an individual who has managed to get themselves to somewhere that’s worthy of having an audience to speak to these people and say ‘Look, maybe the local community and the values and the norms they have given you isn’t all that out there.'”Chris Williamson
  • There are different things that you can value; truth, virtue, integrity, honesty, etc. 
    • Doing something hard and worthwhile, not just doing something for its effect
  • “I think for a long time I’d judged the value of my work based on how other people interpreted it.”Chris Williamson
    • Chris was doing club stuff, modeling, and reality tv, but it did not make him satisfied. There was nothing there for him
    • He had all the trappings of fame and success
    • He outsourced his sense of self-worth to everyone else. He was playing a role. He never felt love, only praise
    • He started the Modern Wisdom podcast because he wanted to speak to people that might have the answers and move him a little bit closer to where he is supposed to be
  • Returning to Joe’s compliment at the start of the podcast about Chris being a good listener
    • He always wanted to interrupt
    • If there was silence he presumed that he wasn’t interesting
    • He was outsourcing his sense of self-worth to what other people were thinking about him
    • It took a long time for him to deprogram that 
    • 4 and a half years of constantly talking to people 3 times a week
  • Constantly looking for something, whatever it is that they might have that would help him
    • He found out that he can be comfortable with himself by chasing something that he wants to do; his intellectual curiosity, finding people that resonate with him, having conversations he cares about
    • “Every single time that I leaned into something that I wanted to do a little bit more it reminded me of the direction that I was going and that was the drink that I was thirsty for.”Chris Williamson
    • “Other people’s heads are a wretched place for your self-worth to live.”Chris Williamson
    • Through these podcast conversations, you do develop a better sense of what is authentic
    • “I think what you [Chris] are really selling is authenticity.” – Joe Rogan
  • One of the things about pursuing status (car, watch, clothes, etc.) is that it is unattainable to many people so it seems like it’s valuable but when you attain it you realize it’s not valuable, it’s just difficult to get
    • “It is far easier to achieve your material desires than it is to denounce them.”Chris quoting Naval Ravikant
    • Valuable is something that fulfills you intellectually, emotionally, spiritually, lovingly
    • Having a great relationship with someone is very valuable and hard to achieve
    • Same with being a great friend, it’s very valuable because you have to be worthy
    • But sometimes it is futile to tell people this, they need to see and experience that for themselves
    • It can help to learn from other people’s mistakes, but there is a certain amount of failures and mistakes you have to do on your own

Social Media Is Like Processed Food

  • You can also get stuck by consuming “processed” information and run into a bunch of people that are also stuck and you feed off each other
    • Social media is like processed food; it’s processed information and it’s bad for you in (constant interaction with people in a shallow way, antagonism, etc.)
    • A lot of the algorithms on social media enforce this, but it’s not all their fault
    • It’s what you choose to interact with
    • Algorithms support what you are interested in, and for the majority of people what they choose to interact with more often than not is what upsets them
    • A lot of it is because they are unsatisfied with their own life (people they interact with, what they do for a living, their social circle, etc.)
    • They get into online groups, find conflict, and try to resolve external situations instead of what’s wrong in their own life
  • Think about what is genuinely valuable to you and what makes your life better
    • It’s hard to make that distinction sometimes, you can have belonging, a shared sense of ideals, etc. but if it’s not directed to something that is genuinely virtuous it is potentially hazardous for your well-being
    • E.g. the manosphere (red pill, black pill, MGTOW, incels, etc.)
    • All different flavors of people trying to make sense of how the world works
    • Men going their own way (MGTOW) – people that have been scorned by women or having difficulty with women and have renounced them entirely
    • They have a community, but some of these areas (especially the black pill forums) can be a really bad place to be for men
  • Both types of communities can give the same sort of satisfaction but long-term incredibly different outcomes
    • “Whenever someone discouraging people from loving relationships or that it’s impossible, or that you shouldn’t find a woman you are compatible with and enjoy being with is a ridiculous community. It’s stupid. Good relationships are great. Nobody is happy on its own.”Joe Rogan
    • We are not uniquely individual on our own
    • “If a group that you associate with is saying ‘Don’t associate with the opposite sex and have a loving and happy relationship’, that’s just because they don’t think it’s attainable to them.”Joe Rogan
  • Inner citadel concept by Isiah Berlin
    • When the outside world had denied what we truly want, we retreat into ourselves into a kind of walled-off garden to protect ourselves from the fearful ills of the world
    • E.g. people going into polyamorous relationships and saying that monogamy isn’t ancestrally compatible because they haven’t been able to hold down a relationship that works well
    • Body positivity extremes- weight has no genuine bearing on health
    • It’s basically if you can’t win at a game, you change the rules and announce that you never wanted to win at all
    • “If you can’t get what you want, you must teach yourself to want what you can get.”Chris Williamson

“That Sounds Like a Compelling Argument, Maybe I Was Wrong?”

  • The importance of how people attach themselves to their opinions
    • A whole lot of people feel terrified to admit they are wrong
    • If we are judged by our opinions and not our deeds, then admitting that we have a wrong opinion is the destruction of the ego
    • You need to be able to admit that you are wrong
  • “People that can’t admit that they are wrong are at the biggest competitive disadvantage in the modern world of anybody else.”Chris Williamson
    • You are wrong/I’m wrong – your thoughts are not you
    • You are not wrong, the ideas are wrong
    • You can have an incorrect thought and you are still the same person. You just gotta be able to understand that it was an incorrect thought and backtrack your way to find out why you had it in the first place
  • A lot of people don’t have someone they can have a genuine conversation daily (a conversation that is not interrupted by other people, by responsibilities, etc.) 
    • It’s a mental workout, a kinda of therapy
  • Chris’ valuable advice for leveling up your thinking and conversation skills
    • Try and make a fake podcast with a friend, just press record on your phone to have an external record of what is said
    • Have a conversation (half an hour, once a week)
    • The reason for that, for having a conversation where you are held to a rigorous standard is any breaks in your thinking are going to be called out
    • You will be fact-checking. You need to be rigorous with your thinking, precise with your speech
    • This is how you really zero in on what you believe
    • Whatever it is that you want to talk about
    • Through podcasts, you grow and learn, and it’s not traditionally taught and valued as a form of education; being able to understand how you think about things
    • “…the scrutiny of 100,000 people comes down on whatever shit idea you had, and how stupid and ignorant you were, and how there were inconstancies beforehand.” – Chris Williamson
    • You can create that kind of community by curating the content you consume
  • The role of the audience – valuable contributions
    • Helping creators make content that is good, encouraging them to think better and in a rigorous way
    • “Audiences have the opportunity to craft the direction of the people they listen to by contributing in a well-meaning way.”Chris Williamson

It’s Never Too Late

  • Why are people so hesitant to change?
    • Most of the time we need some sort of catastrophic event before we are forced to look at our problems and change
  • If you are alive, you can always get better and it starts with improving the way you think
    • The more you bullsh!t yourself, the more difficult it’s going to be
    • Your opinions are just a thing that you are bouncing around in your head
    • “Your thoughts are no more part of you than the weather is part of the sky.”Chris Williamson
  • You get momentum by thinking and doing something a certain way
    • Doing something that satisfies you change everything for you
    • What would the world be if you showed up 1% better? Who would that impact and how far would the ripples go?
    • There is a necessity for people to do something only they can do

Get Closer to Achieving Your Goals (Even if You Don’t Know What They Are)

  • What is the thing that can take you closer to your goals even if you don’t know what your goals are?
    • “Perfectionism is procrastination masquerading as quality control”Chris Williamson
    • People decide not to do a thing until they know the direction they are going to go in
    • That means no step is useful until they know the end goal
    • What they don’t understand is that any commitment you are going to make is a step in the right direction
  • E.g. write a blog post once a day for a month and see what happens
    • Even if it turns out that you suck at it and hate it, what you learned is that you can do a thing every single day for one month – that is a valuable lesson
    • The more you commit to doing stuff, anything, the better your life is going to be
  • You can be anything you want but you can’t be everything that you want
    • Pick the highest point of the contribution that you can go to and overtime gradually refine those down
  • Sometimes you can find mutually beneficial things (podcasting, commentary, comedy; they intermingle) 
    • But more often than not it diverges (if you want to be the best dad you probably won’t be the best businessman in the world)
    • That’s why you have to “…decide in advance what you want to suck at.”Oliver Burkeman
  • “As soon as we start to commit to one thing, we feel the pain of the stuff that we’ve started to let fall away.”Chris Williamson
    • If you commit in advance, you will know all the other things you will suck at
    • That pain stops us from making progress
  • Remember that a lot of the things you work on don’t have to stretch into the future indefinitely
    • Some things will change over time
    • Good things don’t last forever. Bad things don’t last forever
  • Chris’ important life realization
    • Not feeling like the now is everything that is but that things are going to change over time and going to iterate
    • Whatever you are doing now is only going to last for a little while; particular training style, that little project you are doing… And then what else are you going to add after that? You don’t know

You Don’t Just Get To Be Happy All the Time

  • Joe just tries to enjoy what he’s doing while he’s doing it
    • He doesn’t think too much if he’s gonna be able to do it forever
    • Joe had to stop playing video games because he is obsessive
    • Find things that you enjoy doing and do them as much as you can
    • He is never bored & endlessly fascinated by things
  • If you can find things that resonate with your particular personality, just enjoy them and treat them as what they are – a replacement for all the things that gave you human rewards
    • The human organism needs problem-solving, stress, and difficult things to overcome so that it can relax
  • You don’t just get to be happy all the time
    • You have to face discomfort to appreciate happiness
    • “The sun doesn’t feel good anymore in SoCal, it’s there every f*ckin day.” – Joe Rogan
  • It might be you need more physical struggle and exercise to feel better, how about a good sleep schedule?
  • Chris was ashamed that he felt horrible inside because he figured there was no reason for him to feel like that (living a lavish lifestyle)
    • He was going to bed at 4 am two-three nights a week
    • The first stable sleep and wake pattern he had as an adult was when he got COVID
    • It drastically changed how he felt, and it allowed him to sink more into developing his morning routine
    • “The momentum you can build up when things are consistent, sustainable, replicable… The difference is so profound I can’t put words on it.”Chris Williamson
    • It’s the accumulation of all the little things: the fact that you get up early, saying truth instead of lies, saying you were wrong when you are wrong, etc.
    • A lot of people get stuck on that first step
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