#1805 – Mike Tyson | Joe Rogan Experience

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Key Takeaways

  • Mentors are everything
    • Mike Tyson believes everyone has the fire inside them to be the best at what they do, they just need the right mentor to “ignite their ego”
  • “How do you really get used to understanding yourself when everyone tells you that you’re the greatest” – Mike Tyson
    • His obsessiveness and aggressiveness during training tainted his emotional intelligence in his personal life for a long time
  • “[Tigers] give you a false sense of security that you’re in control of them” – Mike Tyson
    • Gives you some perspective to hear this from one of the most dangerous boxers of all time
  • Living is the beautiful process of dying
    • Death has a bad rap – we should be afraid of death but not cling to life
  • Whatever you think a human being could do to another human being (no matter how horrible), it’s probably already happened
  • Watching animals compete in nature serves as an honest reminder to never be the weak one in the group
  • Why do we struggle with our nature so much more than any other animal on the planet? A wolf doesn’t contemplate its purpose, why do we?
  • Continue reading for more banter on everything from cobra venom to rat experiments to the war in Ukraine

Intro

  • Mike Tyson (@MikeTyson) is the former heavyweight champion of the world, but is still the reigning “Baddest Man on the Planet.” Check out his new podcast, Hotboxin’ with Mike Tyson.
  • Mike Tyson joins JRE for a third round, discussing his recent fight with Roy Jones, his pet tigers, and more miscellaneous marijuana-fueled topics.
  • Host: Joe Rogan (@joerogan)

Books Mentioned

Mike Tyson’s Recent Fight Against Roy Jones Jr.

  • Mike Tyson realized he had to fight again after a DMT toad venom psychedelic trip
    • Tyson originally told Joe on a previous podcast that he was afraid to unleash his ego again, but this changed his perspective
  • The fight was supposed to be against Bob Sapp, not Roy Jones Jr.
    • Jake Paul also tried to throw his name in the ring, which Tyson thinks is cool
    • “The world will turn on you if you take yourself too seriously” – Mike Tyson
  • Dana White didn’t want Mike Tyson to fight again, so he got him a gig on shark week!
    • Not exactly safer than boxing, objectively speaking, so Tyson did the Roy Jones fight anyway
  • Check out the highlights from the Tyson/Jones fight here!

Rising Through the Ranks

  • Mike Tyson met boxing trainer and manager, Cus D’Amato, when he was 12 years old—he taught Mike how to fight with (bad) intention
    • “Mentors are everything” – Mike Tyson
    • Mike believes everyone has the fire inside them to be the best at what they do, they just need the right mentor to “ignite their ego”
    • Sometimes you’ll find mentors where you’d least expect. Mike tells a story of how he learned his ‘skipping’ movement from an amateur fighter who just got out of jail.
  • “I was nobody that wanted to be somebody so bad” – Mike Tyson
    • No life balance, just strict fighting and training day-in-day-out
  • “How do you really get used to understanding yourself when everyone tells you that you’re the greatest” – Mike Tyson
    • His obsessiveness and aggressiveness during training tainted his emotional intelligence in his personal life for a long time
  • “I always wish I could have been in the stands watching me fight” – Mike Tyson
  • Many great fighters don’t make great coaches
    • The self-centeredness makes relatability difficult

Lions & Tigers & Mike Tyson, OH MY!

  • When domesticated, lions are social with everyone, but tigers become attached to one person
    • “If it’s not your cat, don’t touch the cat” – Mike Tyson
  • During his training days, Mike’s tigers would travel with him in a big 18-wheel truck everywhere he went
    • “They lived big, baby! I’m the heavyweight champ of the world, when I go somewhere, they are going with me!” – Mike Tyson
    • Had to have an exotic animal license for every state he traveled to
    • Mike had at most three tigers at one time
  • Tigers have a grazing diet, they eat a little bit all day long
    • Feeds them chicken and horse meat
    • Tiger farts are apparently horrible
  • “These animals give you a false sense of security that you’re in control of them” – Mike Tyson
    • Gives you some perspective to hear this from one of the most dangerous boxers of all time
    • Don’t let them stare at you too long, they might get ideas
    • Hit a tiger in the foot or point the legs of a chair at them if you need to scare one off

Random High Thoughts: Joe Rogan Vs. Mike Tyson

  • Living is the beautiful process of dying
  • Anything you’re afraid to do in life, do it. You’ll realize there isn’t much that you’re actually afraid of.
  • Watching animals compete in nature serves as an honest reminder to never be the weak one in the group
  • Most religion is superstition before it becomes religion
  • Imagine how crazy Galileo sounded when he said ‘I think everything we know is wrong’
  • Rumors say the Acacia tree, also known as the burning bush, is rich in DMT
  • Vikings are just farmers who know how to fight
  • Animals tend to be bigger in colder climates and smaller in warmer climates
  • Alexander the Great was shorter than Napoleon
  • Elizabeth Báthory was a Hungarian serial killer who allegedly killed over 600 girls, she then bathed in her victims’ blood as a way to retain her beauty and youth
  • White cobra venom has been used as a substitute for opium
  • A skeleton weighs roughly 20lbs on average
  • We can survive global warming to an extent, but what about global cooling? What if we can’t grow any food?
  • Homo floresiensis is an archaic human hobbit that inhabited the island of Flores, Indonesia
  • The best gladiators in Rome were mainly vegans and vegetarians
  • There will always be kings, they’ll just go by different names
  • Mushrooms: are people ignorant of the idea of psychedelics or scared of what they’ll learn about themselves?
  • It’s raining diamonds on Neptune

How Far Would Humans Go?

  • Whatever you think a human being could do to another human being (no matter how horrible), it’s probably already happened
  • We hunt the fox because it’s the only animal that backtracks and uses reasoning, which makes it a challenge. What if hunting humans is the next challenge?
  • Egoism and selfishness often override morals when it comes to life or death
    • What is the true cost you’d be willing to pay to protect yourself and your family?
    • Mike relates it to competition – “ain’t no way he gonna kill me first”

Pyramids

  • “I believe humans, with conviction, can do anything” – Mike Tyson
    • There’s an argument that the Egyptians who built the pyramids were skilled workers rather than slaves
  • Ancient Egyptians were known to lie in an attempt to uphold their pristine image
    • No fat people in paintings
    • Denied drug use, but “cocaine mummies” proves otherwise

Ukraine

  • Wars often start with a business interest but end with a humanity crisis
  • The war in Ukraine makes you think about what military and humanitarian conflicts are happening without a minute of media coverage

Questions for the Universe

  • How did the name ‘human’ originate? Did we create it or were we given it?
  • How much of our knowledge is predicated on the fact that we are at mercy of the scientist or expert who claims to know?
  • Why do we struggle with our nature so much more than any other animal on the planet? A wolf doesn’t contemplate its purpose, why do we?

Experiments with Rats

  • Rat Utopia Experiment – gave the rats all the food, sex, and space they wanted, but they ended up killing each other
    • Takeaway: Once they got everything they wanted, they broke up into groups to create their own conflict. Ultimately, there is no progress without struggle.
  • Rats are commonly used in experiments because they are extremely resilient
    • Rats also can perform simple A/B testing. For example, they’ll send a young rat to try some unknown food. If it’s poison, the group will stay away.

More Boxing Talk

  • “I wanted the greatest, like Ali and Durand, to know my name” – Mike Tyson
  • “Boxing is not fun when you’re getting hit a lot…You can’t beat the accumulation of punches, no matter how great you are.” – Mike Tyson
    • Mike Tyson explains how his style is more like karate than boxing
  • “I’d rather win and get no money than lose and get money” – Mike Tyson
    • You have to risk losing in order to win, it’s not fighting if there’s no risk-taking
  • “For a guy like me with low self-esteem, I need to hear that I’m God. If I don’t hear that or think that, you ain’t gonna see me in no fight.” – Mike Tyson
  • Mike Tyson never accepted compliments because his coach (Cus D’Amato) always thought it could be coming from another coach trying to steal him
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