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Carnivore Diet Myths Debunked, Hard Questions About Meat Vs. Plants, Are Broccoli Sprouts Really Bad for You & Much More | Dr. Paul Saladino on Ben Greenfield Fitness

Key Takeaways

  • A lot of biohacking today seeks to mirror how our ancestors lived previously
  • You need varying amounts of fat and carbohydrates in addition to protein for human biochemistry to work – but it’s critical to source proper carbohydrates
  • All calories are not created equal
  • “Red meat and animal foods are the most nutritious foods on the planet, containing the most bioavailable source of nutrients humans need to survive.” – Dr. Paul Saladino
  • The likely culprit of metabolic dysfunction is polyunsaturated fatty acids and linoleic acids which cause mitochondrial damage  
  • “For some people, the removal of many or all plants from their diet may result in increased health.” – Dr. Paul Saladino

Introduction

Dr. Paul Saladino (@CarnivoreMD) is an authority on the science and application of the carnivore diet.

He is a staunch advocate of using diet to reverse autoimmune disease, inflammation, mental health disorder, metabolic syndrome, and much more. In this episode, Dr. Paul Saladino sits down for a solo-cast without Ben Greenfield and answers questions related to his controversial new book, The Carnivore Code.  

Host: Ben Greenfield (@bengreenfieldfitness)

Carnivore Code Theses & Outline

  • The carnivore diet is an animal-based diet
  • Background information: animal foods and saturated fats have been incorrectly vilified
  • Thesis 1: Red meat and nose-to-tail animal meats are critically important in the human diet
  • Thesis 2: Plant foods exist on a toxicity spectrum and make defense chemicals rendering some more toxic than others
  • Consider eliminating the plants that are most toxic
  • Fruits are probably the least toxic part of plants and are meant to be eaten if you are metabolically healthy and insulin sensitive
  • “Red meat and animal foods are the most nutritious foods on the planet, containing the most bioavailable source of nutrients humans need to survive.” – Dr. Paul Saladino

Plant Toxins & Impact on Health

  • There are unique adaptations in the saliva of herbivorous animals that allow them to breakdown toxic plant compounds
  • Humans are not as good at detoxifying plants because they haven’t been a substantial part of our diet for as long
  • “Plant foods are fallback foods.” – Dr. Paul Saladino
  • There’s a correlation between the decline of human health and the advent of agriculture
  • When we began agriculture, our health went south because of the massive change in the nutrient density of food sources
  • There’s geologic evidence that there were massive floods and major extinction 13,000 years ago
  • As animal species went extinct and only smaller game became available, it may have been a driving factor that spurred us to agriculture
  • Check out Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock on the Joe Rogan podcast for more on the topic

Regenerative Agriculture

  • Soil has been farmed to oblivion with mono-crops
  • Mono-crop agriculture is depleting soil
  • Ruminant animals raised properly are part of a natural ecosystem that sequesters carbon and makes the soil more fertile
  • Nutrient system: animals increase microbiome of soil – the animals the more nutritious plants – we eat these healthier animals
  • The only way to increase soil carbon is to have plants and animals together on pastured land

“Rabbit Starvation”

  • There is a ceiling to the amount of protein a human can consume
  • You cannot get all the calories humans need for energetic systems from amino acids alone
  • “Rabbit starvation” definition: lack of sufficient fat and/or carbohydrate to support ATP and detoxification processes in the body
  • If humans eat enough protein without ample fat and carbohydrates, we get hyperammonemia (high amounts of ammonia in the blood)
  • You need varying amounts of fat and carbohydrates in addition to protein for human biochemistry to work
  • The target is approximately 10-30% of calories from fats and/or carbohydrate
  • Important clarification: encouraging carbohydrates does not mean to reach for grain-based carbohydrates which can be full of toxins

Metabolic Dysfunction: Causes, Symptoms, and Myths

  • Carbohydrates do not necessarily cause insulin resistance but can fan the flame in the setting of insulin resistance
  • The likely culprit of metabolic dysfunction is polyunsaturated fatty acids and linoleic acids which cause mitochondrial damage  
  • Carbohydrates plus excess polyunsaturated fats make us fat because of detrimental effects on visceral adipose tissue
  • Target for less than 3-4% of your diet to come from omega-6
  • Carbohydrates plus stearic acid do not make us fat and support insulin sensitivity
  • Low carbohydrate diets can be helpful when dealing with metabolic dysfunction but we still need to find the root cause

Environmental VS Molecular Hormesis

  • Molecular hormetics are exogenous molecules that produce side effects since they’re foreign to the body
  • Plant foods are full of molecular hormetics
  • Soy has similar effects of disruption and has been shown to increase estrogenic activity
  • Though there are many advocates for resveratrol, research is not conclusive and many successful studies have been done on mice and rats but failed in humans
  • There might be benefits to such supplements but doesn’t mean it’s worth it since you don’t know how the side effects will work with your body
  • The best approach is environmental hormesis which doesn’t introduce side effects
  • Environmental hormesis includes things like heat (sauna), cold (cold water plunging), and diet (occasional ketosis), etc – all natural

Case Reports on Carnivore Diet and Cancer

  • There’s never been an interventional study that suggests red meat is inflammatory
  • A huge collateral issue with cancer is cachexia, the loss of lean muscle mass
  • Protein is critical to support the rebuilding of muscles
  • There are case reports that support paleo-keto diet, similar to the carnivore diet, regress cancer progression
  • It’s key to maintain adequate gut health when battling cancer
  • For more information, check out Paul’s interview with Dr. Al Danenberg

A Few Tips on Starting Carnivore Diet

  • “For some people, the removal of many or all plants from their diet may result in increased health.” – Dr. Paul Saladino
  • If you are not insulin resistant, you can include carbohydrates from fruits in your diet but try to avoid the seeds which can be full of toxins
  • When designing a carnivore diet, you need to think about how much protein you need
  • Start with 1g of protein/pound of goal bodyweight
  • We should cycle in and out of ketosis, not remain in ketosis always
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