AMA #2: Kevin’s Meditation Practice, Favorite Books, Preferred Supplements, Go-to Teas, Daily Routine, and More – The Kevin Rose Show

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Key Takeaways

  • Advice to a recent college grad entering the workforce:
    • “I would say these first 5 years are all about networking, improving your worth, and being able to take on any task. Whatever you do, do it at the highest level. Don’t have the attitude, ‘Well, that’s beneath me.’” – Kevin Rose
  • You can find 10 minutes to meditate, no matter how busy you are
  • “Not a single person on Earth has everything figured out… There’s no such thing as figuring out life. Believing that you can crack the code or ‘figure it out’ will just cause you anxiety.” – Kevin Rose
  • Our body temperature naturally rises in the early morning hours
    • Because of this, any sort of hot beverage in the early AM will wake you up (you don’t always need caffeine!)

Books Mentioned

Supplements & Products Mentioned

  • Kevin’s been drinking a ton of Japanese sencha lately (caveat – most of his comes from Japan)
  • Kevin uses an OOLER Sleep System, a mattress topper that circulates temperature-controlled water (varying between 55-110 °F), allowing you to optimize your sleep environment (with the OOLER, you can schedule temperature changes throughout the night)
    • For 15% off the OOLER, use the code “Podcastnotes15” at checkout
  • Kevin’s preferred lion’s mane mushroom supplement brand – Real Mushrooms
  • Kevin’s favorite <$100 Japenese whiskey?
  • Kevin supplements with:

Intro

Kevin’s Advice to a Recent College Grad Entering the Startup World

  • Do excellent work and build close relationships (this will open up opportunities for yourself at future companies) 
  • “I would say these first 5 years are all about networking, improving your worth, and being able to take on any task. Whatever you do, do it at the highest level. Don’t have the attitude, ‘Well, that’s beneath me.'”Kevin Rose
    • Show you’re willing to take on ANYTHING

Specialization vs. Generalization in a Startup Environment

  • It depends what your area of work is
    • If you’re a coder, sure – specialize in AI or machine learning
  • In general, if you’re not sure what you want to do, and you’re still early in your career – it’s okay!
    • Go ahead – work on one thing for a few years and then switch fields if you’re not into it
      • “It’s worth taking a few steps back sometimes to move forward” – Kevin Rose

Kevin’s Meditation Practice

  • Initially, Kevin meditated just to relieve acute anxiety
    • “But later, I realized that was the worst time to meditate. You want to have a habit and practice, so you don’t even get in those situations to begin with.” Kevin Rose
  • Now, Kevin meditates 10-20 minutes EVERY day
    • “Treat it like something that can’t be skipped. EVERYONE can find 10 minutes; I don’t care how busy you are.” – Kevin Rose
  • “I fear that a lot of the meditation apps… they don’t go really deep for people that want to take meditation seriously” – Kevin Rose
    • That said, Sam Harris’ Waking Up app stands out above the rest in this regard – it’s designed much more for people who want to take meditation seriously

What Would Kevin Tell His Younger Self?

  • “Not a single person on Earth has everything figured out… There’s no such thing as figuring out life. Believing that you can crack the code or ‘figure it out’ will just cause you anxiety.” Kevin Rose
    • But, once you realize this… there’s this tremendous peace
    • Not billionaires, not CEOs, not Elon Musk… NO ONE has it figured out
  • “Every asset that you acquire, everything… it doesn’t matter what it is, everything that you take on has some type of burden… All of these material things are just adding mental burden.” Kevin Rose
    • As Tyler Durden would say – “The things you own end up owning you”

Digg’s Failure Taught Kevin Several Valuable Lessons

  • As some background, Kevin was one of the co-founders
  • At the last moment, Google’s acquisition of Digg fell through
    • This spiraled into Reddit overtaking them as the largest social news site
  • “What this whole thing did, the collapse of Digg, is it forced me into some introspection. It forced me to acknowledge where my deficits were – the things I didn’t know that I had been trying to cover up. This forced me to more towards lifelong learning, admitting my faults, and becoming a more open person.” Kevin Rose

A Lesson Learned from Mark Zuckerberg

  • “One thing I always respected about Mark… he always had so many questions, and he was always transparent about what he didn’t know.” – Kevin Rose
    • Kevin adds that his biggest fault during his 20-30s was not being willing to ask for help

Kevin’s Life-Changing High-Dose Psilocybin Experience

  • (For background, psilocybin is the psychoactive component of magic mushrooms)
  • In the past, Kevin had taken a mushroom chocolate bar at a house party but had a horrible experience
    • “I was in Hell for 5 hours… The set and setting wasn’t right… I had horrible anxiety.” – Kevin Rose
  • But, after some convincing from Tim Ferriss, 15 years later Kevin decided to take a high-dose of psilocybin (~5 grams) under the guidance of a therapist
    • In short, the experience was remarkable – Kevin worked through a ton of past trauma surrounding his deceased father
    • “I was able to traverse a little bit of my childhood. Not so much the moment to moment memories, but more so the feelings that had been layered on and stored in my body and brain… When I came out of the trip several hours later, I felt like there had been this huge burden that was lifted from me. It was a fantastic experience… It’s been 4 years since I had that experience, and I still experience the benefits to this day.”Kevin Rose
      • The cliche is true – it really is like 10 years of therapy in a few hours
    • That said, it was no means a “fun” experience – it’s WORK
    • A few notes:
      • The session took about 6 hours
      • Kevin wore an eye mask most of the time, to direct his focus internally
      • Kevin was back to normal the following day
  • If you’re curious and want to learn more about psychedelics, How to Change Your Mind by Michael Pollan is a great resource

Kevin’s Daily Routine

  • He wakes up around 7 AM and takes care of his youngest daughter until the nanny shows up around 9 AM
    • He’ll have a cup of tea or black coffee somewhere in this window
  • Around 9 AM, Kevin heads downstairs to his in-house office
  • Then, it’s down to work
    • Kevin is a full-time venture capitalist with True Ventures, so he receives a ton of pitches. Kevin focuses most of his interest on longevity/biohacking, consumer internet, and crypto companies.
      • Because of this, his day is often filled with tons of phone calls with founders
  • Midday, Kevin will do some exercise:
    • Most of the time, this consists of simple cardio (walking at a 15-degree incline, while writing emails or listening to an audiobook on his iPad, for a total of one hour)
    • Then, he’ll do a 20-minute sauna session at a temperature of 180 °F
    • (Kevin will throw in some weight training 3x a week)
  • Around 1 PM, Kevin will break his fast (which is usually 16-18 hours in length by this point) with some sort of vegetarian or vegan lunch (he’s not vegan, but Kevin likes to wait until dinner to eat meat)
  • Then, he gets back to work (either doing stuff for his podcast, or general tech industry research) 
    • One of his favorite sites for the latter is Techmeme
  • Around 5 PM, Kevin stops working for the day to spend time with his two daughters
  • Then, he’ll eat an early dinner with his wife, with 1-2 glasses of wine thrown in

Kevin’s Favorite Teas

  • He’s been drinking a lot of Japanese sencha lately (but Kevin gets most of his from Japan during his yearly visits)
  • For oolong tea, order from Red Blossom Tea
    • “They’re by far the best importer of really high-quality oolongs” – Kevin Rose
  • Kevin also recommends everything from Matcha Kari (he’s an investor)

Talking Sleep

  • Jason absolutely loves his Pod bed (by Eight Sleep), mainly because of its temperature-adjustment feature
    • He has it set to a colder temperature when he first goes to bed, and to warm up during the early-morning hours
  • Kevin uses an OOLER Sleep System, a mattress topper that circulates temperature-controlled water (varying between 55-110 °F). With the OOLER, you can also schedule temperature changes throughout the night.
    • For 15% off the OOLER, use the code “Podcastnotes15” at checkout
    • He prefers to set it to a warmer temperature when first going to bed, a cooler temperature in the middle of the night, and to ramp back up come morning
  • On the above: “You haven’t lived until you’ve had one of these things” – Jason DeFillippo 
  • Our body temperature naturally rises in the early morning hours
    • Because of this, any sort of hot beverage in the early AM will wake you up (you don’t always need caffeine!)

Kevin’s Preferred Lion’s Mane Mushroom Supplement

  • Lion’s mane is excellent for enhancing cognition
  • Kevin is currently growing his own lion’s mane mushrooms in his backyard
    • You can also buy lion’s mane mushrooms at Whole Foods – cut them up into slices, dry roast them in a pan (without oil – this will cause them to shrink down), then add some oil/butter/garlic/salt+ paper
      • “It ends up tasting like lobster” – Kevin Rose
  • But, if you want to supplement, Kevin recommends Real Mushrooms
    • They were recently analyzed on ConsumerLab and got a great review
      • For some background, ConsumerLab is a great resource to check for all your supplement questions – they examine all sorts of protein powders, vitamins, etc., and give you the REAL data (which is essential, since it’s such an unregulated industry)

What Supplements Does Kevin Take?

  • Extended-release metformin for glucose regulation (1 g/day)
    • It’s a prescription supplement, but it’s linked to cancer prevention and life extension
  • Vitamin D3 and K2
  • Creatine (1.5 g/day) for the brain benefits
  • MegaFood Turmeric a few times a week to fight inflammation
  • Using his 23andMe data and running it through Dr. Rhonda Patrick’s Genome Analysis Tool, Kevin discovered a few of his genetic polymorphisms. This information has led him to supplement with:
    • Choline (because he’s a poor absorber)
      • Kevin will also try to eat more eggs (which are packed with choline)
    • MegaFood Daily Multivitamin
      • Why? – Kevin has the MTHFR genetic mutation (meaning he’s a poor absorber of B vitamins, so he needs them in the methylated state; MegaFood takes care of this)
        • Methylated vitamins are simply more bioavailable

Where Can You Buy Bitcoin in Small Amounts?

Advice to a 30-Year-Old Looking to Make the Most of the Next Decade

  • Stop drinking! (Kevin’s only half-kidding)
  • “Now is the time to find and plug your gaps” – Kevin Rose
    • Your brain is still sponge-like and primed for learning
  • “Don’t fall victim to the sunk-cost fallacy… Don’t hold on to things because you’ve invested in them. Look for things that will make you happy.”Jason DeFillippo
    • If you’re on a career path you don’t like, get the hell out

Kevin’s Investing Strategy & Financial Portfolio

  • Kevin keeps most of his money in index funds
  • A smaller percentage of his net worth is locked up in crypto and tech investments
    • “I’m long on Bitcoin, so I hold a bunch of Bitcoin and a few other smaller crypto project” – Kevin Rose

Portland, Oregon

  • Kevin moved here form the Bay Area a while back and loves it
    • It had a phenomenal food/beer scene, great hiking trails, and tons of coffee shops
  • Favorite Portland restaurants:
    • Ox for some fantastic Uruguayan beef, bone marrow, stews, and an excellent beef heart dish
    • Tusk, a Mediterranean-inspired hummus spot
    • Bamboo Sushi
  • Favorite breweries:
  • Other recommendations:

Talking Books

  • Kevin’s favorite books of 2019:
  • For those with a fear of flying, Jason highly recommends Cockpit Confidential by Patrick Smith
    • “I feel safer in a plane now than I do standing in the airport. It’s unbelievable; this will get anyone over a fear of flying… Statistically, a plane is the safest place in the airport. From the time you leave your house to the time you’re on the plane, everything in between is more dangerous.” – Jason DeFillippo

Rapid Fire & Additional Notes

  • Kevin plans to go caffeine-free during January 2020
    • Jason tried a 3-month caffeine-free experiment but didn’t notice many benefits (particularly in regards to sleep)
  • Kevin’s favorite podcast guest?’
  • Kevin’s favorite biohacking tools?
    • The sauna, his continuous glucose monitor, and cold exposure
  • Check out Dr. Rhonda Patrick’s Sauna Report and Cold Stress Report
  • Pick one: Peleton or sauna?
    • Peleton, because it’s allowed Kevin to lose a ton of weight
  • Kevin eats 2 meals/day (lunch and dinner)
  • Kevin met his wife, Darya, on Twitter
  • Kevin’s favorite <$100 Japenese whiskey?
  • Kevin plans to do the Wim Hof Method this winter
  • Kevin’s “always been a little bit of an introvert”
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