Kevin Rose: The Man Who’s Seen It All – Below the Line with James Beshara

Key Takeaways

  • About 80% of the caffeine in tea is released during the first 30 seconds of steeping
    • If you want to enjoy tea without the caffeine, just pour out the first steeping into a new cup
  • Benefits can be had by intermittent fasting for just 13 hours a day
  • Longer duration fasts are even better
    • “We know that giving your body a little bit of a break and some downtime to do repairs is a good thing”
    • There are cells in your body that could potentially turn cancerous and if you starve them, because they are already weakened and a little messed up, they’ll die off
  • Eat the rainbow
    • It’s amazing how much nutritional benefit one can get just by eating foods of many different colors
  • “Failure is just admitting that you’ve learned something”
    • The only way we move forward is by failing
    • Don’t get beat up or paralyzed by failure, look at it as a learning experience
  • “You can get the same benefits of longer duration exercise, and maybe even more brain benefits on the neurogenesis side of things, by doing these really intense short sprints”
  • Use the sauna as often as you can. There are many benefits:
    • Increased blood flow to skeletal muscle (known as muscle perfusion) and other tissues
    • Reduced rate of glycogen depletion due to improved muscle perfusion
    • Increased red blood cell count
    • Increased efficiency of oxygen transport to muscles
  • Prioritize: Sleep > Diet > Exercise > Stress Management
  • One of the most important changes Kevin’s made in the last 10+ years: Admitting that he didn’t know everything and realizing it was okay to ask for help

Intro

Books Mentioned

  •  Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker PhD
    • A great book on the science of sleep that everyone NEEDS to read
  •  How To Change Your Mind by Michael Pollen
    • This book will change the way society thinks about psychedelcis

Kevin’s Tea Obsession

  • Kevin gave up soda when he was 21 and started drinking tea to get his caffeine boost instead
    • He became pretty obsessed, which led him to take a few university classes on the subject of tea and travel all around China learning about the tea creation process
      • It took him a year to become a certified tea master 
  • He recommends getting tea from the Red Blossom Tea Company
  • About 80% of the caffeine in tea is released during the first 30 seconds of steeping. So if you want to enjoy tea without the caffeine, just pour out the first steeping into a new cup.

Kevin’s Nutrition Regimen

  • Kevin loves tea but also enjoys a cup of coffee every now and then and even roasts his own beans at home
  • He practices intermittent fasting for either 13 or 16 hours a day
    • One study showed that by fasting for 13 hours a day, about 38% of women had a reduction in the reoccurence of breast cancer
    • “We know that giving your body a little bit of a break and some downtime to do repairs is a good thing”
      • There are cells in your body that could potentially turn cancerous and if you starve them, because they are already weakened and a little messed up, they’ll die off first
    • Knowing all of the benefits of fasting, Kevin created Zero – a fasting tracker app, (as well as Oak – a meditation app)
      • Zero has over 300k people fasting every day
    • The science around the optimal fasting window is still largely debatable so Kevin makes sure not to make any concrete claims
      • If you are in any health-related business, point people to studies and research that support your product, but be aware that the science is always changing
  • Kevin enjoys learning about his body and took a 23andMe genetic test which he then uploaded the results to Rhonda Patrick’s FoundMyFitness report
    • Rhonda’s report will analyze your genetic information, tell you which  supplements you should be taking, and if there are certain things you should be doing based on your genetic makeup
      • Kevin found out he needed to get more choline into his diet so he started eating more eggs to break his intermittent fast
  • For lunch, Kevin tries to eat a lot of greens (kale, spinach, etc.) and “eat the rainbow”
    • It’s amazing how much nutritional benefit one can get just by eating foods of many different colors

Kevin’s Exercise and Sauna Routine

  • Kevin will frequently use a Peloton treadmill and do a 60-minute, 13% incline, 1.4 mile per hour walk
    • He’ll play a tower defense game on his iPad while walking – “The time just flies by”
      • It’s fun and a great workout, Kevin aims to do this workout 3x a week
  • Kevin also tries to work in a bit if high-intensity interval training/sprints – he uses an app called Seconds for this
    • “You can get the same benefits of longer duration exercise, and maybe even more brain benefits on the neurogenesis side of things, by doing these really intense short sprints”
  • Kevin also tries to hit the sauna 5-6 days a week
    • To learn more about the benefits of sauna, Kevin recommends reading Rhonda Patrick’s PDF about it, but here are a few:
      • Increased blood flow to skeletal muscle (known as muscle perfusion) and other tissues
      • Reduced rate of glycogen depletion due to improved muscle perfusion
      • Increased red blood cell count
      • Increased efficiency of oxygen transport to muscles
    • The sauna should be at least 170 F
    • Kevin bought a sauna for his home and recommends doing so if you have the space (it costs about $1K – $1.5K)

The Importance of Sleep

  • The World Health Organization just classified a lack of sleep as a carcinogen 
  • Kevin recommends the book  Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker PhD to learn more about the science of sleep
    • Sleeping less than 8 hours will decrease your lifespan 
    • With 3 hours of sleep, the average person will lose 12 points of IQ
    • Check out Matthew Walker’s TED talk for more mind-blowing facts
  • Prioritize: Sleep > Diet > Exercise > Stress Management

Kevin’s Career

  • Currently, Kevin is focusing on his podcast (The Kevin Rose Show) and also has a newsletter which James recommends signing up for
  • Kevin describes himself as a geek throughout his adolescence
  • He moved to the Bay Area from Las Vegas after reading about all of the internet action and exciting opportunities there
  • He launched his first startup, Digg, in 2004
    • Digg exploded fast – Kevin was on the cover of BusinessWeek within 6 months but felt like an impostor who didn’t know what he was doing
    • Digg’s closest competitor, and ultimate demise, was Reddit
  • One of the most important changes Kevin’s made in the last 10+ years: Admitting that he didn’t know everything and realizing it was okay to ask for help
    • Kevin felt insecure as the CEO of Digg since he hadn’t finished his college degree – this led him to hand off many responsibilities (which he regrets doing) rather than being willing to look ignorant/ask for help
  • Kevin spent 3 years at Google
    • While there, Kevin learned how important it is to interview and find incredibly talented individuals if you want to build a premiere company
      • One difference between Google and Apple: Google tends to give more power to engineers while Apple tends to give more power to creatives
    • After working with the Google+ team, Kevin moved to Google Ventures
      • He loved this job but after a while he got the itch to start creating products again

Flip the Idea in Your Head That Failure is a Bad Thing

  • “Failure is just admitting that you’ve learned something”
  • The only way we move forward is by failing
  • Don’t get beat up or paralyzed by failure, look at it as a learning experience
  • “Liberation comes in many forms, honesty is one”
    • It’s liberating to admit that you made a mistake or failed

Additional Notes

  • If you’re curious to learn about psychedelics and the benefits, Kevin highly recommends reading How To Change Your Mind by Michael Pollen
    • James calls his experience with Ayahuasca “5 years of therapy in 5 hours”
    • Kevin says one of the best things he’s ever done was a high-dose magic (5 gram) mushroom experience
  • Kevin says one of the best things he did was invest in some couples therapy with his wife prior to getting married
  • Being an entrepreneur helps you as an investor because you are able to connect with rising entrepreneurs and sharing what worked/what didn’t when you were building your startup
  • Kevin is on the board of Oura Ring – a sleep tracking wearable device
  • Kevin recently invested in Jour – a guided journaling app
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