The Kevin Rose Show – Tim Chang on Consciousness Hacking

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Key Takeaways
  • In general, almost everything we do, is to gain some advantage to be more attractive, so we have a better chance to reproduce (making money, getting buff, getting a nice car etc.)
  • Perhaps the way we perceive reality is limited by our senses, and there’s different ways to tune those filters, or our ‘antennas’
  • The way you perceive the world, shapes your reality
    • All of us, have a different set of “glasses” if you will, that we see the world with
    • Over time, as you wear those glasses long enough, you believe that’s what reality really is
  • It’s been proven that trauma gets handed down in the form of gene mutations to your offspring
  • One book that Tim likes to give to everybody – The Untethered Soul: The Journey Beyond Yourself
  • “Your road to enlightenment will be your own mixtape. Just like a good DJ, listen and read to all the things out there, and pick the elements that work for you. That’s your unique path to the mountain top.”
Intro
Evolution
  • “I actually think our brains are wired, especially in the first half of our lives, to seek an edge for a reproduction advantage”
    • The core wiring of humans is basically – eat, don’t get eaten, and spread your genes
    • In general, almost everything we do, is to gain some advantage to be more attractive, so we have a better chance to reproduce (making money, getting buff, getting a nice car etc.)
  • The 5 Fs
    • The routines running in your brain, are the result of survival programming, enabling us to survive in scarce environments (like when we used to live on the plains of Africa)
    • When you encounter something new, your brain is instantly evaluating. It asks – Should I:
      • Fight it?
      • Flee from it?
      • Fuck it?
      • Feed on it?
      • Or Friend it?
    • Really, this pretty much explains 99% of human behavior
Biohacking
  • The Dexcom G5 is an subcutaneous continuous glucose monitor
    • Kevin says it’s easy to inject, and is really accurate
    • The Libra Freestyle is also a continuous glucose monitor
    • Tim thinks the next big thing, is being able to see how your body responds to certain foods (in terms of how your glucose and insulin levels fluctuate) – everyone’s body reacts differently
  • Kevin wears an Oura Ring, a state of the art sleep tracker
    • Use the code “podcastnotes” for $50 off at checkout
    • Tim also wears one, and his biggest realization – Your time in bed is not equivalent to the time spent asleep
  • Tim is a fan of the Motiv ring
    • This ring is better at tracking the fitness side of things
  • The Sleep Score Max is also a cool sleep tracker
  • Tim is an investor in Tonal Fitness
Ego Death, Entheogens, and Psychedelics
  • “There may be more dimensionality to our reality than we perceive with just our naked senses”
  • How does Tim describe using psychedelics for the first time?
    • “It’s almost like you’ve been watching TV in black and white, in flat 2D, and suddenly you get a glimpse of an IMAX 3D trailer”
    • “Perhaps the way we perceive reality is limited by our senses, and there’s different ways to tune those filters, or our ‘antennas'”
  • Set and Setting are so important
    • It’s so crucial to go into a psychedelic experience with an intention or a purpose
  • Ego Death
    • “Ancient people, since time in memorial, have sought vehicles to break down their ego”
      • The Lakota Indians used sun dancing and sweat lodges
      • Peruvian tribes used Ayahuasca
      • “Many of these things often have a deep sense of discomfort, because that’s often what it takes to shock you out of your default mode, and knock you out of your identity, so that you are then able to look outside, in on yourself”
    • What is ego death?
      • A phrase to describe what it’s like when you start to realize that even your own identity, who you think of as yourself, is just a construct/story/a narrative, that’s no more real than any other tale
      • “Tim Chang is not a real person. He’s almost like a character in a play that I’ve been writing for years, and that other people have helped me write.”
    • Each of us has a story of who we are, that we feel we have to live up to every day
      • This story, comes with all of this obligation, and these weights, and to keep cognitive consistency, we spend all of this effort every day trying to uphold it
      • For example – Kevin feels that if he doesn’t put out a podcast for a while, he’ll become less relevant
  • The way you perceive the world, shapes your reality
    • All of us, have a different set of “glasses” if you will, that we see the world with
    • Over time, as you wear those glasses long enough, you believe that’s what reality really is
The Best “Biohacks”
  • Get proper sleep
  • Eat clean
  • Fast
  • Move frequently and lift things
  • Meditate
  • Have healthy relationships
Meditation
  • “Meditation provides me with a way for my brain to finally be at ease, and just not be churning on stories” – Kevin
  • “I used to think meditation was something you had to work at, but it’s actually just a surrender practice, and it’s infinite how much you can ‘let go’. You can keep letting go, and letting go…and that’s where the magic arises.” – Tim
  • Check out Kevin’s meditation app – Oak
A Crazy Fact
  • It’s been proven that trauma gets handed down in the form of gene mutations to your offspring
    • “It literally is baggage you inherent from your parents, and their parents….all those unresolved issues”
    • In many ways then, our lifetime homework is to close that baggage, which is handed to us, and come to peace with that (while dealing with our own baggage that we pick up along the way)
Slowing Down Time
  • If you’re always looking towards to the future, then you’re never “here” and times goes by really fast
    • “The quickest way to kill your day, and make it go by really fast, is filling it with all these tiny little to dos and chores”
  • “What if you made every moment feel like forever?”
    • Tim says people in Sardinia do a good job of this, after visiting
  • There’s a famous saying – “All of man kind’s problems, stem from his inability to sit in a room quietly by himself”
  • “Most of the time, we’re either rehashing something from the past, or planning something for the future. We’re never really in the current moment.” 
  • Tim has a trick
    • Savor the “inbetween moments”
    • Like when you’re waiting in line for something, or walking towards your next meeting
    • “Life happens a lot in those inbetween moments. Normally we think of it as dead time, but we can make it alive.”
Cool New Tech in The Realm of Consciousness and Neurofeedback
    • With this, you wear electrodes on your forehead, which records your brainwave state for 10-15 seconds, then transmits it back to your brain at ultra low energy for only about 15-20 seconds
    • Tim did a meditation session with this, and says – “It felt like going into that state that it would take a week of a meditation retreat to get to”
      • “It was almost like an amplifier for meditation”
    • The theory behind it – if you show the brain an image of what it’s doing, it can pick up on subtle signals and tune/equalize itself to what it needs to
    • The technology has helped people with ADHD, depression etc.
Longevity
  • “I’m less scared of dying, and more scared of losing my cognitive functions”
    • Tim is 46
    • He has the two copies of the ApoE3 gene
      • The biggest risk factor for developing Alzheimer’s Disease? – Whether or not you have any copies of the ApoE4 gene
      • Everybody has 2 copies of the ApoE gene (1 from mom, 1 from dad) – it’s either ApoE2, ApoE3, or ApoE4
        • 75 million Americans have a single copy of ApoE4 
          • Their lifetime risk for developing Alzheimer’s Disease is about 30%
        • About 7 million Americans have 2 copies of ApoE4 
          • If you have 2 copies, your lifetime risk of developing Alzheimer’s Disease is over 50%
      • You can test your ApoE phenotype with 23andMe
Supplements
  • Kevin says choline has helped him a lot cognitively
    • Uploading his 23andMe data to Promethease, Kevin has learned that he’s bad at absorbing choline (there’s lots of it in eggs), so he has to supplement a bit more
  • Kevin and Tim both take Lions Mane Extract
  • Check out the HumanOS blog for supplement recommendations
Relationships
  • “Therapy is the best thing I’ve done with my wife” – Kevin
  • Tim’s advice for everyone – do relationship coaching, way before you have any relationship problems
    • “The biggest realization for me, is that what you see in someone else, is your own projection onto them. It’s usually your own stuff that you’re projecting onto others.” – Tim
Diet and Nutrition
  • Tim practices intermittent fasting
  • He eats mostly a Paleo/low carb/high protein diet on training days, and “ketoish” on non-training days
  • Unless you are hard core strength training, research indicates you don’t need that much protein
    • Check out some of these Podcast Notes with Dr. Valter Longo for more on this
    • Long story short – be careful, especially in regards to consuming factory farmed meat which is filled with antibiotics
  • On a recent blood test, Tim’s mercury levels were very high, probably from eating so much fish
    • Kevin also had high mercury levels once, but they’ve dropped, from eating a lot of cilantro, and using the sauna (sweating it out)
  • Kevin uses Life Extension for blood tests
    • You can also use WellnessFx
    • Tim – “I’m a fan of, ‘the more data the better'”
  • Probiotics
    • Most probiotics are not that bioavailable – the bacteria don’t stick to our gut 
    • There’s an emerging field on the benefits of fecal transplants
Podcasts
Books
Random
  • “If you don’t launch something you’re a little bit embarrassed by, you waited too long” – Reid Hoffman
    • Get your product out there, get a following, adjust and add on later
  • “All humans are looking for a sense of love and belonging, and a sense of purpose and meaning”
  • Statistically, 75% of startups fail
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