The Erotic Playbook of a Top-Earning Sex Worker (NSFW): The Tim Ferriss Show

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Intro
  • “Those who are easily shocked, should be shocked more often”
  • Alice (@thealicelitte) is the top earning sex worker at The Moonlite Bunny Ranch Las Vegas, Nevada
  • Alice is the founder of the political movement Hookers for Healthcare
Books and Background
  • Eleven Minutes: A Novel (P.S.) by Paulo Coelho is a novel about a Brazilian sex worker
  • Alice collects rare books
  • She was born in Dublin and moved to the US (Long Island) around age 5
How did Alice find her way into sex work?
  • Alice has always been curious, this led to her sexual inquisitiveness
  • She discovered The Cathouse Series and admired the workers, specifically Airforce Amy
  • She was inspired by the ability to explore and innovate in a sexual way
BDSM
  • Bondage Discipline Sadism Massicism or Bondage Discipline Dominance Submission
  • “Everything in life is about sex, except for sex. Sex is about power.”
How did the sex work enter the picture?
  • She had previously worked as a massage therapist, emergency medical technician, and a jockey at a race track and wanted something with a deeper purpose
  • She liked the idea of connecting with people on an intimate level
  • “Life is about enrichment, both for our own betterment, and the betterment of the those around us”
    • Sex work served as the perfect channel for her to do this
How does the process usually go with couples?
  • You can request someone in particular or request a lineup in which all the available workers come out to the lobby to greet you, and then you select whom you’d like to meet with
    • Before she meets clients face to face, if they request her, they interact via an online forum associated with her business
  • The client and worker then usually negotiate a price – Alice describes it as something similar to having a conversation with a friend
    • Here they talk about the plan and price for the session. Price can not be discussed in advance. Prices typically range from low 4 figures for dinner, to 5 figures for sleep overs/sex. Some very wealthy people have spent up to 6 figures.
    • The money is handeled by a cashier
  • What questions does Alice like to ask her clients prior to the session?
    • She likes to get to know her clients via email first
    • What are you comfortable with? What are you not comfortable with?
  • Alice likes to start her sessions with couples by having them undress each other with their eyes closed (this heightens the other senses)
    • She then encourages them to explore her own body
    • Next, is a body massage with an edible massage lotion, such as Coconut Massage Oil  – either her and the woman massage the husband, or the couple massages her
  • Many of her sessions with couples involve a lunch date first, where they get to know each other, but the time she spends with people varies
  • She likes to think of sex like a dance – “You naturally fall into this flow where you’re exploring and embracing. Your instincts take over and you don’t feel the need to think about things”
During sessions with couples, what do the smart and ‘not so smart’ guys do?
  • The smart men communicate, they are very clear about desires and what kind of experience they want to have
  • “Trying to manipulate your partner into a sexual encounter is the absolute worse thing you could do”
What are the most often requested experiences and activities?
  • The most requested experience is the girlfriend experience  – the man and her go out to eat or to a concert together, and keep in touch with via text/phone calls
    • Why is this the most requested?
      • It’s cheaper than a wife (“free sex is the most expensive sex”), Men enjoy the familiarity of a particular woman but their is no strict emotional attachment – you can cherry pick the best parts of a relationship
    • What is the average duration of a girlfriend experience session?
      • 2-4 hours
The wand
  • The majority of woman have trouble reaching climax
  • She recommends the Hitachi Magic Wand (on the low setting)
    • This can also serve as a great tool for relaxing stiff muscles as discussed in Tools of Titans
  • Many woman prefer a rhythmic approach as opposed to variation
Consensual Non-Monogamy
  • Sometimes there’s a medical reason for this. For example, if a woman has ovarian cancer and allows her husband to visit a sex worker.
  • “Sex is a need, not just a want” – there’s positive psychological effects
What is Alice experience like with adult virgins?
  • Before anything, she wants to get to know them on a personal level
  • Most of them are men – some have a disability, are war vets with PTSD, or might fall on the autism spectrum
    • As this can sometimes hinder verbal communication, she uses physical touch in its place and watches her client’s body language to make sure they’re comfortable
    • She never proceeds to the next step until both her and her client are comfortable enough to do so
  • “I want to make that first time everything they’ve dreamed hoped, and desired”
  • How does she make virgins feel comfortable?
    • Ambient lighting and background music – Watermark by Enya, Lydsey Sterling’s violin pieces, and Chill Step are her favorite music pieces/genres
    • She then progresses to physical contact through slow foreplay – many of these men have never kissed a woman before
What kinds of people visit the ranch? What demographics are more prevalant?
  • Someone over the age of consent – Alice sees people from all different walks of life
  • Society has painted this negative picture of people who visit brothels, but it’s not true at all – Alice sees everyone from your local mailman to government officials
What are some misconceptions in the sex work industry?
  • Some truths
    • The women who come to work at the brothels are highly educated
    • The workers look at their jobs as services to the community
    • It’s a incredibly upscale environment with classy women
    • “Sex is truly a societal need, and so long as that need exists, sex work will be the natural answer”
Besides the service component, what does Alice get out of doing the work?
  • “A very honest look at humanity, and a very honest connection with human beings that society couldn’t provide for me. Modern America is trapped behind their cell phones and we no longer interact with each other on a face to face level; we don’t hug each other; we don’t touch each other.”
  • Her interactions are stimulating and enriching
  • “There’s so much to be learned by just sitting down with another human being”
  • Her time as a sex worker has made Alice more confident. She used to feel she wasn’t good enough due to her height (she’s 4’8″).
What has Alice learned about men through her work?
  • “Society misjudges them and places an expectation of toxic masculinity on them, which prevents men from embracing the emotional and sexual side of themselves”
  • Men come to the brothel because they want to be heard, be listened to, and be understood
What does Alice think of porn?
  • “Porn is ruining America, it’s ruining relationships and ruining intimacy”
  • Nothing is real, it’s the exact opposite of real life. It’s ruining a man’s sensitivity to orgasm. It’s reinforcing the idea of women as objects.
  • If we removed porn, men would spend more time exploring genuine connections with women
What separates a good from great female sex worker?
  • Passion – the zest for life, the inquisitive nature and desire for more/what’s next
  • Alice recommends The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene – she always takes the extra step
  • “Where most people would stop working, I keep going”
Rapid Fire Questions
  • Books Alice has gifted the most – The Art of the Pimp by Dennis Hoffman, The 48 Laws of Power, Memoirs of Geisha: A Novel
  • Purchase that has improved her quality of life – A Handheld Spiralizer for vegetables
  • What would her billboard say if she were to get a message out to a million people, and where would it be? – “Sex is a need not a want. Sex legalization is the future of America.” She’s put it in front of the white house.
  • What class would Alice teach? – Something about interpersonal relationships and how it relates to society as a whole. We need to do a better job of interacting as humans.
Parting Thoughts
  • Have an honest conversation about sex with someone. “Let’s talk about sex. Our society isn’t talking about it, and it’s something we should be more comfortable talking about. It’s not going away.”
  • From Tim – Check out Radical Acceptance by Tara Brach

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One thought on “The Erotic Playbook of a Top-Earning Sex Worker (NSFW): The Tim Ferriss Show”

  1. Hey Tim, I listen to your podcast regularly and have learned a ton and found myself enjoying it. Generally, I leave your podcasts feeling satisfied, like you covered what I wanted you to. NOT THIS TIME! And I get that “much of the question is about the asker” and there were SO many questions I couldn’t believe you didn’t ask. Like: 1) What won’t you do? Where do you draw the line? 2) Have you ever “fallen” for a client? What happened? 3) How do you form relationships outside of work? How does that work? 4) What is your sexual apatite? 5) What % of the time are you faking an orgasm for the benefit of your client? (Not that she would say, but I’d enjoy hearing her response). Anyway, that’s what round 2 is for. Hope you had an awesome silent retreat. Love your show.

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